Cab Regrets?

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Looking at XR4040 and 46. Local dealer just emailed me some various quotes on models. While discussing options/approval with CFO she says 'get the cab', she cited how it would be safer if the kids wanted to ride. I understand that. And don't want a safety discussion to start up. I am looking for opinions from those with cabs that may have wished they didn't. Breaking windows or other damage moving brush, inability to adjust three point, view obstructed, or other regrets having it

I can make a list to the advantages for it, moving snow. Raking hay(allergies), keeping limbs out of face. Looking at extra 3k for cab, it just seems too big on these small tractors and looks to be in the the way.

Ok let's say I have it, Do the arm rest fold down to level with seat. Growing up both of the green machines we had the armrest would fold down making a large seat for us kids to ride along and learn the controls for our turn at driving in circles for hours on end.

Thanks
Closer to pulling trigger, still need to test drive shuttle shift.
 
/ Cab Regrets? #2  
Well I have never seen an armrest fold down, most fold up which is what mine do. I doubt you could get a buddy seat on that size tractor even if you wanted one, at best they would have to sit in your lap.

I bought my tractor because I wanted one with a cab, no regrets. I have ran under low hanging limbs a lot and they just shed off the cab (don't try this with large limbs, just go around them), at most they just fold back the mirrors that then make it hard to get the doors open.
I have never broken anything on my cab, but my BIL had a lower glass break in his right after he got it. They tried to say a rock from bush hogging broke it, but his argument was that would be impossible for a rock to come from the front of the tractor when slung from the bush hog and they agreed. Replace the lower glass and no other problems with the cab.
I bought mine for the summer heat, but it is also nice when a summer shower comes up and the heat is nice in the winter.
Most will come with a radio also if you want to sing along with your favorite singer.
 
/ Cab Regrets? #3  
No regrets from me purchasing a cabbed tractor.I have busted off a couple warning lights but that's a cheap fix.I snow-plow about 2 miles in the winter,did it with an open station for four years.
 
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Thanks for the replies

Here is a pict of a 1970's JD 4630 off of TractorHouse that shows the armrest folded. This is what I remember riding on and folding down when I was driving to have more room and just for the entertainment value as killing time for hours on end disking under wheat stubble.

JD4630 Seat.jpg
 
/ Cab Regrets? #5  
Thanks for the replies Here is a pict of a 1970's JD 4630 off of TractorHouse that shows the armrest folded. This is what I remember riding on and folding down when I was driving to have more room and just for the entertainment value as killing time for hours on end disking under wheat stubble. <img src="http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/files/ls-tractors/390819-cab-regrets-jd4630-seat-jpg"/>

That is nice I only wish 5030C would do that.
 
/ Cab Regrets? #6  
No regrets here at all, I am tickled pink with the cab on my 4046. The arm rests fold up. You mention inability to adjust the 3 pt with a cab, but I can. Open the rear window and you can reach the lever (at least my 6-1 frame can). I haven't felt like my view has been obstructed either. I have bad allergies and the cab has been great for mowing.
 
/ Cab Regrets? #7  
Thanks for the replies

Here is a pict of a 1970's JD 4630 off of TractorHouse that shows the armrest folded. This is what I remember riding on and folding down when I was driving to have more room and just for the entertainment value as killing time for hours on end disking under wheat stubble.

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That's what my JD 4440 does. It's not really a buddy seat, but my wife rides along with me sometimes - it's pretty tight and she's a small person. Having a cab with AC sure is nice when you brush hog and run into a bunch of ragweed.
 
/ Cab Regrets? #8  
My XR3037HC is my first glass cabbed tractor (I had plenty of soft cab models). I made sure I got glass coverage insurance just in case (through CNH) I can't imagine those glass doors (or any glass) being cheap.
The armrests do not fold down flat (or level) with the seat. I really have not even used mine. Always folded up.
No regrets on the cab. Looking forward to plowing snow in the heated cab in a T shirt.
I also don't need to adjust the 3 pt. from the cab.
Also agree the cab is very nice in dusty conditions.
I like the HST for snow plowing and loader work.
 
/ Cab Regrets? #9  
The only regrets I hear about cab tractors is after guys drive around with the doors & windows open and break them, especially doors. If you buy a cabbed tractor, get A/C and use it. Shut the door before shifting out of neutral.
 
/ Cab Regrets? #11  
I had a late 70's IH2500b that had a cab. I made the mistake of using it in thick, heavy woods. Almost every window was cracked, mirrors snapped, wiper bent, etc... And in summer, as a mower, it was brutal. If you try and mow tall weeks with cab doors open, it just sucks all the dust in. If it is not sealed well and does not have air conditioning to provide positive air pressure to keep the dust out, its not going to help with allergies. Also, I'd leave it on my property over the winter, tarped, and in the spring, I'd find dead animals guts inside it. Something would use it for a dining room. :p
 
/ Cab Regrets? #12  
Didn't know I was allergic to stinging insects until this summer, so I would definitely regret an attack by some aggressive yellow jackets or bees without a cab. Ditto rocks and other objects flying from a cutter -- allergic to those too :p My little one is especially little, so the cab is also ideal even without a buddy seat.

Mowed ~3.5 acres of yard with ZTR today, and was kind of bummed when I realized that on nice days the cab is an isolated box with no wind or fresh air except from the climate control, an open window, or if on the BH perch behind the cab. Also it is easier/faster/less expensive to just duck around tree limbs, jump on/off, etc.

The only "ideal" solution is 2 tractors, but I'd have to trade in a marriage to make that happen!
 
/ Cab Regrets? #14  
I have a big regret!
Not buying a tractor with a cab.
 
/ Cab Regrets? #15  
No regrets whatsoever. So nice coming home at night clean instead of looking like i rolled around in the mud when i mow......
 
/ Cab Regrets? #16  
i don't have a clue about your tractors that you are looking at...

*ughs* kids riding on tractor with you. *sorry* but it is a no for me. to many deaths and/or accident. these are not national media, news, but just local over the years doings.

with that said...make sure you have good visabilty for the FEL (Front end loader)
--they can be a pain in pastures / mowing under trees. and anything outside the cab (mirrors, lights) being torn off.
--if you get an oil leak inside the cab, it is a bad thing. from the fumes of the oil.
--can be a pain to clean out all the mud and crud that gets drug into a cab. (no easy way to break out the garden hose and give the inside of the cab a good washing)
--outside windows can be one heck of trick at times, to wash. there high up, and the rear tires, 3pt hitch, engine, etc.. all right there, even with a short ladder no real easy way to reach over everything and clean the windows at times.
--bees, wasps, etc... if they find there way in, it can be a tad dangerous getting them out of there.
--mice + lots of extra wires and places for them to nest *arghs*
--mice + a/c = a good tear down of roof to clean things out and get rid of dead mice and the nests.
--cab in summer + no a/c = can be hotter than, vs simple sun shade, due to no real air movement through cab.
--cab's technically have a higher COG (center of gravity) meaning more likely to tip / roll over. due to so much more extra weight up high.
--farmers, were they drive tractors to work, and ride them when working, cab is a no brainer.
--weekend warriors. might find an open station better. easier to get on/off (not having to deal with doors)
--those with sheds that can park there tractor in, open or cab does not matter. though cab = higher door height to get tractor in.
--those folks parking there tractor outside, more so for folks with snow. a cab can be a huge plus. just getting the bloody wind off of you, (without heat) can be huge. and not having to set in a pile of snow, to start the tractor up.

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with above all said, if you can spare the cash for a cab, i would get one. there nice, it is the one thing you will always hear well most of the time, if you don't have a cab you want one, and if you have a cab, it is just a second thought. and don't look back at it. ya need to remember a tractor is not a buy and toss away thing, it is going to be there for a few long years to come.

though, i normally give a statement to some folks on buy/pricing/comparing forums. buying a bigger tractor with more HP (horse power) vs a smaller tractor, with all the little extra options. all the little extra options, cab being a possible option. can be extremely nice, granted it takes more time to get jobs done vs bigger tractor, but for a multi purpse tractor that will see a little of everything, (more so if you are a week end warrior / diy'er ). those extra options can help speed up a variety of tasks, and help give a more professional final look with less time dealing with a given task.

i would say read some threads in the "buying / comparing" forum. more so threads with more than 20 posts (shows 2 to 4 plus pages of posts), and give some more detail, of what you will be doing with tractor.... it will help folks, better help you, and possibly make other suggestions that you may not have thought of.
 
/ Cab Regrets? #17  
Well after read the last post not one of reasons on the list makes me not grateful that I got the cab. Every time I turn the key I am happy.
 
/ Cab Regrets? #18  
I debated this for a while too. I finally bought a larger than planned tractor and a cab to boot (72hp). I bought a LS P7010C. I have some trees to trim due to rouge limbs. I have learned to just not drive under them. There is SOME visibility issues, but the positives out weigh ANY negatives in the Cab vs Non Cab discussions.

Cabs do cost more initially. You have to maintain door seals, gaskets, filters, and HVAC system to have a functional cab. When these fail and you don't want/can't repair, it will become very uncomfortable. It was 88 degrees yesterday and I had to turn the AC down because I was cold. No yellow jackets, no rain, no dust, no mud, always comfortable.

Would I do it again, you bet! My next tractor will be a 40'ish HP LS Cab Hydro for the wife.

LS P7010C



 
/ Cab Regrets? #19  
i don't have a clue about your tractors that you are looking at...

*ughs* kids riding on tractor with you. *sorry* but it is a no for me. to many deaths and/or accident. these are not national media, news, but just local over the years doings.

with that said...make sure you have good visabilty for the FEL (Front end loader)
--they can be a pain in pastures / mowing under trees. and anything outside the cab (mirrors, lights) being torn off.
--if you get an oil leak inside the cab, it is a bad thing. from the fumes of the oil.
--can be a pain to clean out all the mud and crud that gets drug into a cab. (no easy way to break out the garden hose and give the inside of the cab a good washing)
--outside windows can be one heck of trick at times, to wash. there high up, and the rear tires, 3pt hitch, engine, etc.. all right there, even with a short ladder no real easy way to reach over everything and clean the windows at times.
--bees, wasps, etc... if they find there way in, it can be a tad dangerous getting them out of there.
--mice + lots of extra wires and places for them to nest *arghs*
--mice + a/c = a good tear down of roof to clean things out and get rid of dead mice and the nests.
--cab in summer + no a/c = can be hotter than, vs simple sun shade, due to no real air movement through cab.
--cab's technically have a higher COG (center of gravity) meaning more likely to tip / roll over. due to so much more extra weight up high.
--farmers, were they drive tractors to work, and ride them when working, cab is a no brainer.
--weekend warriors. might find an open station better. easier to get on/off (not having to deal with doors)
--those with sheds that can park there tractor in, open or cab does not matter. though cab = higher door height to get tractor in.
--those folks parking there tractor outside, more so for folks with snow. a cab can be a huge plus. just getting the bloody wind off of you, (without heat) can be huge. and not having to set in a pile of snow, to start the tractor up.

==========
with above all said, if you can spare the cash for a cab, i would get one. there nice, it is the one thing you will always hear well most of the time, if you don't have a cab you want one, and if you have a cab, it is just a second thought. and don't look back at it. ya need to remember a tractor is not a buy and toss away thing, it is going to be there for a few long years to come.

though, i normally give a statement to some folks on buy/pricing/comparing forums. buying a bigger tractor with more HP (horse power) vs a smaller tractor, with all the little extra options. all the little extra options, cab being a possible option. can be extremely nice, granted it takes more time to get jobs done vs bigger tractor, but for a multi purpse tractor that will see a little of everything, (more so if you are a week end warrior / diy'er ). those extra options can help speed up a variety of tasks, and help give a more professional final look with less time dealing with a given task.

i would say read some threads in the "buying / comparing" forum. more so threads with more than 20 posts (shows 2 to 4 plus pages of posts), and give some more detail, of what you will be doing with tractor.... it will help folks, better help you, and possibly make other suggestions that you may not have thought of.

I can't image not having a Cab just bought the LS 7010C with a cab, best thing ever, It can rain, snow, blow run over a under ground bee nest with Brush Hog Who cares keep on mowing..
 
/ Cab Regrets? #20  
I love my P7010C! I agree with a previous poster that sometimes I miss the open air. However, 90% of the time I love the AC (it's hot in Texas 9 months of the year) and radio. I can go out in rain, snow, heat, etc... and get jobs done comfortably. The grandkid can ride along (not during real work) and be safe inside. He loves it inside!

Also, it help reduce my redneck factor!

IHR
 

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