cabelas is discontinuing tractor sales

[Gale Hawkins]

I never knew they handled tractors but they are not local as far as I know.

Sorry when people get caught up in messes like this.

Service and parts availability is the tail that wags the dog.

 

[AxleHub]

Do some background research and see what these owners have been through trying to get parts and service -- it sucks.

Greetings s219,

Well I have done background research before I posted. And what I found looking at numerous threads in numerous locations is there are well over 1000 posts about the Cabelas tractors since the announcement Cam out that Cabelas was no longer going to offer them and was starting discounting.

And that was a very busy topic on many threads until later 2016. In 2017 there was very little posting on them at all. Then in May of this year suddenly a few posts developed. Any complaints I read came from 5 or less users.

1. We know that of total Cabelas stores, only a percentage sold and offered tractors - many never sold or even had a tractor on site.

2. But of all the posts and all the posters in 2015/2016/2017 who posted, I saw virtually no complaints on all those threads until just the past 20 days by users approximately.

3. The is a very small number considering the various size ranges all included.

4. More importantly, let's say that each of those 5 users has a legitimate complaint. Have any of those 5 bothered to contact all the many listed posters who bought a tractor to find out if they've had any problems or not? Have any of the 5 bothered to see if it is a regional. Issue or across the entire group of stores?

5 Lastly have all 5 of the users bothered to contact the consultant who posted many times on these threads who worked with original Cabelas on the tractor project?

6 my point is the original quality ownership of Cabelas is both gone and not in a position of control and influence. It's Bass Pro operating under the Cabelas name and warranty that has the purse strings and control of how things are handled relating to any warranty issues. After warranty like any other brand. . . . You can buy parts and supplies from other dealers like TYM or the 3rd party boat repair entity or whoever.

Now if someone is having a hard time with getting warranty work done or paid for. . . . that's unfortunate. . . . But like any other thing that we all deal with from time to time. . . you have to stay focused and work smart.

So far I haven't seen any posts from the only 5 users I was able to even find. . . that show they've been using resources that are already provided in prior threads or targeting Bass Pro or the consultant.

The original Cabela's ownership isn't the cause of any of today's problems Imo. But they make an easy but innocent target for blame Imo.

And this is a simple question. We saw many posters who bought Cabelas tractors of various sizes and stated that in the numerous threads. Yet only in the last month are a few complaining for all this time. Does that mean all the others have had zero problems or does it mean all the others are getting their concerns resolved.

I did my research s219 before I posted, thank you.

 

[Bud Soda]

All that and you didn't say a dåmn thing. There a are few on this site that are always commenting on post about tractors and other things that they don't or have never owned. Why I don't know Go outside and play and get off the computer.

Greetings s219,

Well I have done background research before I posted. And what I found looking at numerous threads in numerous locations is there are well over 1000 posts about the Cabelas tractors since the announcement Cam out that Cabelas was no longer going to offer them and was starting discounting.

And that was a very busy topic on many threads until later 2016. In 2017 there was very little posting on them at all. Then in May of this year suddenly a few posts developed. Any complaints I read came from 5 or less users.

1. We know that of total Cabelas stores, only a percentage sold and offered tractors - many never sold or even had a tractor on site.

2. But of all the posts and all the posters in 2015/2016/2017 who posted, I saw virtually no complaints on all those threads until just the past 20 days by users approximately.

3. The is a very small number considering the various size ranges all included.

4. More importantly, let's say that each of those 5 users has a legitimate complaint. Have any of those 5 bothered to contact all the many listed posters who bought a tractor to find out if they've had any problems or not? Have any of the 5 bothered to see if it is a regional. Issue or across the entire group of stores?

5 Lastly have all 5 of the users bothered to contact the consultant who posted many times on these threads who worked with original Cabelas on the tractor project?

6 my point is the original quality ownership of Vanilla is both gone and not in a position of control and influence. It's Bass Pro operating under the Cabelas name and warranty that that has the purse strings and control of how things are handled relating to any warranty issues. After warranty like any other brand. . . . You can buy parts and supplies from other dealers like TYM or the 3rd party boat repair entity or whoever.

Now if someone is having a hard time with getting warranty work done or paid for. . . . that's unfortunate. . . . But like any other thing that we all deal with from time to time. . . you have to stay focused and work smart.

So far I haven't seen any posts from the only 5 users I was able to even find. . . that show they've been using resources that are already provided in prior threads or targeting Bass Pro or the consultant.

The original Cabela's ownership isn't the cause of any of today's problems Imo. But they make an easy but innocent target for blame Imo.

And this is a simple question. We saw many posters who bought Cabelas tractors of various sizes and stated that in the numerous threads. Yet only in the last month are a few complaining for all this time. Does that mean all the others have had zero problems or does it mean all the others are getting their concerns resolved.

I did my research s219 before I posted, thank you.

 

[s219]

All that and you didn't say a dåmn thing. There a are few on this site that are always commenting on post about tractors and other things that they don't or have never owned. Why I don't know Go outside and play and get off the computer.

I agree, and despite all of that dissertation it ignores the fact that several TBN members are having a very rough time getting warranty parts and service for their machine. I would be extremely disappointed if I owned one of these tractors. They are not standing behind them like they should be. It's not the owner's fault Cabela's tractor experiment was a flop, yet the owners are the ones paying the price. It's a lousy situation for the owners and they deserve sympathy, not corporate talking points. You need to look at the people side of this and put yourself in the owner's shoes, not defend Cabela's or Bass Pro.

 

[EddieWalker]

I can't speak on service or what it's like to own a Cabela's tractor, but one of the comments on here needs a little clarification. When Cabela's started selling tractors, there was rumors that they where for sale, but that's been out there for quite a few years. Maybe ten years. When Bass Pro made the offer to buy Cabela's, one of the things they insisted on was that they discontinue selling tractors. Bass Pro did not want anything to do with tractors. So when the sale happened, Cabela's was totally out of the tractor business in every possible way.

 

[Oldoak]

Yep, EddieWalker is right.

The only people with heated tempers in the discussion about Cabelas branded tractors should be the actual owners. From what I have read, they have every right to be disgruntled. I sympathize with them and wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

As far as legal action is concerned, that will take money and time, and even in a class action suit, I have never heard of case where the plaintiffs came out ahead even when they won.

 

[AxleHub]

I agree, and despite all of that dissertation it ignores the fact that several TBN members are having a very rough time getting warranty parts and service for their machine. I would be extremely disappointed if I owned one of these tractors. They are not standing behind them like they should be. It's not the owner's fault Cabela's tractor experiment was a flop, yet the owners are the ones paying the price. It's a lousy situation for the owners and they deserve sympathy, not corporate talking points. You need to look at the people side of this and put yourself in the owner's shoes, not defend Cabela's or Bass Pro.

Greeting S219 and Bud soda,

In nature, many animals and especially birds of all sizes and shapes go thru a process of fledging. That is the process of getting prepared to fly, to jump out of the nest. Nature doesn't do it for them, but does prepare the process for them to do it themselves.

Both of you fail to understand my posts (especially the most recent one) . . . because you either have no need because you don't have a troubled Cabela's situation yourself or you just want someone to listen to you gripe Imo.

Re-read my "dissertation " as you call it, with comprehension this time and you'll discover several things:

A. I stated it's unfortunate for those involved.

B. I indicated those that posted had no clear idea of how narrow or broad the problems are.

C. A very clear outline of what to do about it if those who are recent posters with a problem, have the desire and energy to do something about it.

A fledging is a voluntary effort in nature. . . to test and learn and prepare for a bigger effort. While the parents of the small ones can be concerned, they can't do it for them and they can not supply the motivation for them to do it for themselves.

Re-read what you condemned. . . and you'll see a step by step method to correct or effect change.

And until you've done those type of fledging steps. . . Don't expect someone else will do it for you.

Bud and s219 - you couldn't be more wrong in your assumptions and judgements.

Jmho

 

[AxleHub]

I can't speak on service or what it's like to own a Cabela's tractor, but one of the comments on here needs a little clarification. When Cabela's started selling tractors, there was rumors that they where for sale, but that's been out there for quite a few years. Maybe ten years. When Bass Pro made the offer to buy Cabela's, one of the things they insisted on was that they discontinue selling tractors. Bass Pro did not want anything to do with tractors. So when the sale happened, Cabela's was totally out of the tractor business in every possible way.

Greeting Eddie Walker,

Cabelas at the time of Bass Pro completing the sale, was finished with the "selling" of the tractors. That is correct. But just like many other parts of the business, warranties and pledged liabilities still existed and we're ongoing.

As an example, Cabelas sold their credit card business to someone else. Now with that sale was transfered any of the assets and liabilities related to that business. Similarly, with the tractor business, the sale of any of the business either transfers the liabilities for any pledged warranties to Bass Pro unless the purchase documents state that the warranty responsibilities would stay with the original Cabela's owners.

The point I made in an earlier post is very specific. . . Cabelas did not and could not go thru bankruptcy - they were very much, a solvent company. And bankruptcy or formal business closing are the only way that warranties or similar types of pledged liabilities can be eliminated from existence. Now after warranty is expired whenever that is (like power train warranty as well as the bumper to bumper) then whoever that still has the liability is off the hook for future issues. Cabelas being sold did not eliminate warranty responsibility.

 

[AxleHub]

Yep, EddieWalker is right.

The only people with heated tempers in the discussion about Cabelas branded tractors should be the actual owners. From what I have read, they have every right to be disgruntled. I sympathize with them and wouldn't want to be in their shoes.

As far as legal action is concerned, that will take money and time, and even in a class action suit, I have never heard of case where the plaintiffs came out ahead even when they won.

Greetings Oldoak,

I'm not sure about who you refer to about "heated tempers", but I agree with that. As far as having "sympathy" for those directly effected - that is - I would think, a reaction any of us tractor owners would have.

But just having sympathy, doesn't make their lives any better or easier. And while "going legal" can make their situation much better. . . . Too many people charge into "going legal" without being prepared or doing other things first that can be just as effective and also less costly. But it all starts with having better knowledge of the situation and the points I made in a prior post on how to get that knowledge.

"Having sympathy" for others is not a cure. It can turn into a motivation, but that isn't enough to make a difference in its own.

 

[daugen]

All that and you didn't say a dåmn thing. There a are few on this site that are always commenting on post about tractors and other things that they don't or have never owned. Why I don't know Go outside and play and get off the computer.

Bud, I've been reading this thread quietly since the beginning. I don't own a Cabela's tractor, does that mean I can't contribute to the conversation?
That's what AxleHub seems to be trying to do, contribute. And no he doesn't have any skin in the game, but most of us have some interest in other brands.
This isn't a thread on repairing front axle bearings on an 8N, yeah, real helpful if you owned one and can talk from experience.
It's a thread on the loss of a whole tractor brand a number of our members invested in.
So I'd hope all points of view could be considered.

No need for four letter words here either. That's for Unfriendly Politics.

Axlehub did a lot of research. I may disagree with some of his conclusions, though coming from a legal and insurance background I find all kinds of interesting
possibilities brewing here.

Isn't this a TYM? Is it so different there are real parts issues? If you bought a Cabela's you bought a Chinese tractor, you knew that in the beginning didn't you?
Buyers knew they were buying at the low end of the market. what do you expect, a Cadillac?

I paid a lot more for a Kubota because I just didn't want to worry about things like this, and through two dealers, never have.
But my little Massey is a rebranded Iseki and my larger Massey is a rebranded Simpson from India.
I knew that when I bought them used and did so because I had a really good local dealer.
No dealer? Never would have bought them...so this discussion really does impact on all of us tractor owners.
Well at least those of us who aren't mechanics. And even then you have to get the parts in some reasonably quick time frame.
In today's age, where stuff is overnighted all over the world, I don't think we can start from the assumption any more about the slow boat from China.
The one with the Cabela tractor parts on it...

None of this is mean to diminish the deserved upset of Cabela tractor owners who were blindsided by this. They bought into the Cabela lifestyle, like buying a Sea Ray boat where they
show you all the wonderful fun times ahead. They pitch this advertising, and we buy the product, and sometimes it just doesn't work and the curtain comes down.
It will be a mark of Bass Pro's corporate responsibility to see how well they handle this.

My final question is whether the majority of the problems current Cabela owners are having is because they bought a TYM, not a Cabela. Would the issue have been the same
in a different forum?

I hope this helps a little. I'm trying to contribute too...