Buying Advice Cabela's Tractor Help PLEASE

[Streetcar]

Cabela would cover the warranty. It may or may not be repaired at TYM dealer. I would not worry about cabela not covering the warranty. It would severely damage their reputation if they abandoned customers

 

[RickB]

REALLY accusing me of taking a "cheap shot" isn't calling me out???

I guess I live in a different part of the world where folks don't do that...

I also guess that "I" had to be there to hear the rep say it, or it doesn't count...got it!

SR

This is part of the "new" TBN reality. As a 20 year New Holland dealership employee I am increasingly being called out to verify stuff I have known and practiced literally for decades. Most recently by a member whose profile lists a Kubota tractor as his only CUT.
My PM settings have changed, and my 'ignore' list is growing.
TBN is a microcosm of the world we live in; no common sense, no respect, no tact.

I post information, the reader can take it or leave it. I care less every day.

 

[arlen4720]

This is part of the "new" TBN reality. As a 20 year New Holland dealership employee I am increasingly being called out to verify stuff I have known and practiced literally for decades. Most recently by a member whose profile lists a Kubota tractor as his only CUT.
My PM settings have changed, and my 'ignore' list is growing.
TBN is a microcosm of the world we live in; no common sense, no respect, no tact.

I post information, the reader can take it or leave it. I care less every day.

:thumbsup:

 

[arlen4720]

I don't believe you were taking a cheap shot at all, just passing on what you had heard. You're a stand up guy from all of the posts that I have seen.

If that report is true, I don't understand why TYM would do that. It would only hurt the brand long term. If I were TYM, I would jump all over extending MANUFACTURER'S warranty to the owners. Cabelas was not the manufacturer.

I guess there is the possibility Cabelas did something regrettable like buying the tractors without TYM's warranty to cut prices. It wouldn't be the first time an American company did something like that. In which case there is a legitimate concern.

I think that is a very common practice with rebranded products. A deal gets negotiated where the end seller is completely responsible for support. I'm sure that TYM would be happy to work on them for their normal shop rates.
Think about the arrangement that Deere had with Yanmar back when Yanmar made complete small tractors for Deere.

 

[varmint]

Well, to try to get back to the original poster's question, I would say that if he has looked at the tractor, and comparable Kubota and Deere machines, maybe Kioti and ?? as well, and found that the Cabela's seems to have similar build quality, features and capabilities, yet is available for $10,000 or so less, it becomes a simple decision: go for it. Cabela's will take care of any warranty issues- I don't think the company is going anywhere, parts will be available thru TYM down the road, and surely any resale value, should the poster not keep it for 10-15 years, should be adjusted by the savings from purchase. A win-win. Those posters who have scored some implements for great prices add to the argument, IMHO. Dealers come and go, and in any event, we tractor users can live without them by and large. Parts via internet works for everyone except those with strict time demands on their equipment.

 

[roadhunter]

REALLY accusing me of taking a "cheap shot" isn't calling me out???

I guess I live in a different part of the world where folks don't do that...

I also guess that "I" had to be there to hear the rep say it, or it doesn't count...got it!

SR

Throwing out a negative comment like you did with no explanation of the source is most certainly a cheap shot.

If you can't handle explaining yourself when you make negative comments about a manufacturer then maybe you shouldn't speak in the first place. This is a public forum after all and it's not surprising that someone would want to know the source when you throw out a comment like that with absolutely no explanation whatsoever of the source.

I think playing the victim must be popular is the part of the world where you live.

 

[roadhunter]

Well, to try to get back to the original poster's question, I would say that if he has looked at the tractor, and comparable Kubota and Deere machines, maybe Kioti and ?? as well, and found that the Cabela's seems to have similar build quality, features and capabilities, yet is available for $10,000 or so less, it becomes a simple decision: go for it. Cabela's will take care of any warranty issues- I don't think the company is going anywhere, parts will be available thru TYM down the road, and surely any resale value, should the poster not keep it for 10-15 years, should be adjusted by the savings from purchase. A win-win. Those posters who have scored some implements for great prices add to the argument, IMHO. Dealers come and go, and in any event, we tractor users can live without them by and large. Parts via internet works for everyone except those with strict time demands on their equipment.

Agree 100%. Sounds like an opportunity to buy a solid tractor at a discounted price with both short term warranty through Cabelas and long term service and part through a TYM dealer. Thier loss your gain.

 

[RickB]

Throwing out a negative comment like you did with no explanation of the source is most certainly a cheap shot.

If you can't handle explaining yourself when you make negative comments about a manufacturer then maybe you shouldn't speak in the first place. This is a public forum after all and it's not surprising that someone would want to know the source when you throw out a comment like that with absolutely no explanation whatsoever of the source.

I think playing the victim must be popular is the part of the world where you live.

Another guy that wants a complete set of reference materials with each post. See post #42 for more info.

 

[Streetcar]

Another guy that wants a complete set of reference materials with each post. See post #42 for more info.

Sawyer robs response was poorly worded.
It is the same as saying new holland does not have warranty covered by LS
LS makes the small tractors but new holland covers warranty.
The casual reader takes the statement that the tractor does not have a warranty

 

[TomSeller]

playing the victim must be popular is the part of the world where you live.

Throwing out a negative comment like you did with no explanation of the source is most certainly a cheap shot. -roadhunter

 

[murphy1244]

This is getting old and so am I.

 

[TomSeller]

Thread is old news anyway. OP decided not to go with Cabelas. Unsubscribing.

 

[RickB]

Sawyer robs response was poorly worded.
It is the same as saying new holland does not have warranty covered by LS
LS makes the small tractors but new holland covers warranty.
The casual reader takes the statement that the tractor does not have a warranty

Sawyer Rob clearly said TYM would not reimburse TYM dealers for warranty repairs on Cabelas branded tractors. 5 pages later no one has posted anything that refutes that statement which in itself is not unreasonable to anyone familiar with OEM contracts with authorized dealers.

If the "casual reader" can't understand Sawyer Robs post perhaps he should be less casual about his reading.

 

[pete-mi]

Until one month ago both brands would have each done their own warranty. TYM does their and Cabelas does theirs. I would guess that to be the same for new Holland and LS each doing their own. I doubt if a LS tractor owner brought their tractor into a New Holland dealer and wanted New Holland to pay for the warranty that they would. I would not blame the New Holland dealer for not doing it as they likely will not get paid for it. So if Sawyer R's information was from before Cabelas said they were getting out of the tractor business I don't doubt it at all. Cabelas only announced it the second week of January.
With the big companies news can be slow to be announced of any changes. I doubt if any of us here know how the contract was written up between Cabelas and TYM in Korea. Was there any pre set plans if things changed for Cabelas like they did??? It may be a few weeks before we hear what the final warranty plans will be on Cabelas tractors.

I have had very good luck with my TYM tractors. The 330 needed a shut off solenoid under warranty time and that was it. I am guessing $200 on that repair. Other than that I only had to replace a couple small parts and a work light. These would total about $75.00.
With the discounted prices Cabelas is selling them for and how mine have been warranty is not a top issue for me. Like my first tractor only needing about $300.00 worth of parts in 9 years. I am figuring broken parts not oil changes or anything like that. If the tractor they are selling now is $3,000 less than what I would have paid in December that would give me $2,700 to spend on warranty items if they were not covered.
That is besides how much cheaper the TYM made tractor is to the big brands.

 

[roadhunter]

This thread would certainly be of interest to someone considering a Cabelas tractor.
http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/tym-owning-operating/129203-how-many-hours-your-tym-8.html

 

[Btown]

Not really.. I'm talking in proportional relation to the purchase price of both being new. I personally, and from reading the threads many others too, would not want to give you a next to new price for a TYM with no dealer nearby. I would however on a Kubota or JD. Probably my ignorance of TYM which I admitted but the fact is that ignorance of TYM is prevelant. Walk up to 10 people on the street and ask them if they were going to buy a tractor would you but a TYM or a Kubota or JD. My guess is they will say what is a TYM?

What about Mahindra. TYM made the old 10 series for them and continue to make the 2500 series tractor for them.

 

[2ndhalf]

What about Mahindra. TYM made the old 10 series for them and continue to make the 2500 series tractor for them.

I didn't know that. Good to know I also didn't know TYM puts Yanmar and Duetz engines in their tractors which are both great engines. I guess I'm getting educated on TYM. As I said though I would consider one if a dealer was nearby. I know Mahindra is a great tractor I nearly bought one a few years back and did a lot of research about them. So if TYM is building a couple of their models I'm now changing my thinking about TYM. However, still doesn't change the fact that the TYM is not a name brand tractor (yet anyways).

 

[paulfun9]

+1. You need to know the cost new vs used on this resale thing.

+2 and 3

While out looking at new tractors with a friend this week ( he is looking at new cabbed tractors) I decided to price a couple myself and get some possible pricing and that means with and without the trade in of My 2 year old Kioti. What I find funny is that many people advised me that It would be a loss going with it if I wanted to trade it in or resell it a couple years because resale value would suck compared to JD or Kubota. Problem is THEY WERE VERY WRONG! I have now been offered by 3 different dealerships very similar amounts and all 3 offers have been better than any trade offer I ever had for any of my JD of Kubota tractors. The only time I can say I did better was when I traded my old New Holland and got more than I paid for it but that was more so due to the compact tractor market taking off and prices going up across the board for anything.

 

[Btown]

I didn't know that. Good to know I also didn't know TYM puts Yanmar and Duetz engines in their tractors which are both great engines. I guess I'm getting educated on TYM. As I said though I would consider one if a dealer was nearby. I know Mahindra is a great tractor I nearly bought one a few years back and did a lot of research about them. So if TYM is building a couple of their models I'm now changing my thinking about TYM. However, still doesn't change the fact that the TYM is not a name brand tractor (yet anyways).

I agree that they are not well known. Some of their past tractor models have had engines made by Kubota, John Deere, Mitsubishi and CAT/Perkins. Their newer engines are built by Yanmar, Duetz and Doosan. I have said before I am in the market for a 40-50 hp tractor. If TYM had some better dealers near me I wouldn't hesitate to but one. The closest one to me has carried them since Montana tractors went out of business. But this dealer main business is snow plows, sanders and other truck accessories. I would like a dealer that their primary business is tractors. Especially now with the Tier IV emissions. I wish I lived in Texas near Big Reds Tractors.

 

[AxleHub]

After having read all the posts from beginning to this point, I'm struck by a couple of things:

1. The OP states in the 1st post that he is a complete newbie to tractors and then is looking at a 55 hp tractor . . . . Yet the balance of the posts are about warranty and resale price. "Complete newbie" . . . And 55 hp . . . "Having a bunch of dirt work" requires 55 hp????

2. Many mentions of j.d. and kubota tractors . . . Even a few on kioti and mahindra . . . but not a single mention of Massey Ferguson or Yanmar ????

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