Calcium in tires, no longer a fan......

[Luke'sScreenName]

I dont know, you could be right if you've been to the most prestiges, most advanced college in the world for higher learning> U of Orono Me. >>>, "The extra weight of Rimguard at 11 lbs./gal. might be worth the extra stability on my compact tractor when I have wheels set to narrowest. Windshield washer fluid comes in at 8.5 lbs./gal, at a 24 gal fill/tire" But if you went to the same school as Ma and Paa Kettle, we'lllllll>>> Basic Mathematics funny class - YouTube

I thought WWF was 6#/gal or a little less. My fault.

 

[Oldpath05]

Here is the MSDS: Rim Guard Material Safety Data Sheet - Rim Guard - Liquid Tire Ballast

Looks like it could be about 33% sugar (organic solids) and about 40% water but there are some other things in there (compounds and inorganics). Color/odor are described as dark brown/musty chocolate. Sounds like a taste test is warranted

I was hoping that data sheet was going to tell what Rimguard was made from, I here beet juice, well I dont think juice from beets is sweet. So is it made from beets?

 

[arrow]

Mix ratio, <<that makes sense to me especially seeings how you never had valve core problems 28 years.

When I had my brand new tires filled and put on couple years ago, about two days later my son was using the tractor for clearing some trees so he could build a house, he hit something just right, he said the calcium shot out 20 ft., he spent most of the day getting the tire fixed. I come home from work and go wow, if that had happen way down in the woods that would not be good. I didn't dare to weld on the rims after tires are mounted so the following weekend I made these things, they clamp on with 2 bolts so they can be taken off if needed to.

For guys such as us who use their machine for logging, this is a great alternative to welded ones. I had planned to experiment with a special "glue" this summer with some special concoction a kid made up at a local college. He told me "this glue will be almost as strong as a weld". It was made out of some sea animal or something. I dunno where the kid went but he seems no longer at this institution.

 

[fried1765]

I thought WWF was 6#/gal or a little less. My fault.

Well; actually the comparison given in the posting was between WWF at 8.5 lbs. per gallon, and "Beet Juice" at 11 lbs. per gallon.
The reality is that "Beet Juice" weighs between 10.7 lbs. per gal. and 11 lbs. per gal.
Fresh water though, actually weighs 8.33 lbs. per gal.,and methanol weighs 6.59 lbs. per gal.
Thus, WWF probably weighs in at 8 lbs. or less, per gallon, depending on the percentage of methanol it contains.
24 gal. of "Beet Juice"( @11 lbs. per gal.) would weigh 264 lbs.
24 gal. of WWF (@8 lbs. per gal. would weigh 192 lbs.
A difference of 72 lbs.
Cost is VERY DIFFERENT however.
I have 6 big tractor tires, and "Beet Juice" is just too rich for my wallet.
Remember: I was once a Maine "Black Bear"!

 

[Oldpath05]

Well; actually the comparison given in the posting was between WWF at 8.5 lbs. per gallon, and "Beet Juice" at 11 lbs. per gallon.
The reality is that "Beet Juice" weighs between 10.7 lbs. per gal. and 11 lbs. per gal.
Fresh water though, actually weighs 8.33 lbs. per gal.,and methanol weighs 6.59 lbs. per gal.
Thus, WWF probably weighs in at 8 lbs. or less, per gallon, depending on the percentage of methanol it contains.
24 gal. of "Beet Juice"( @11 lbs. per gal.) would weigh 264 lbs.
24 gal. of WWF (@8 lbs. per gal. would weigh 192 lbs.
A difference of 72 lbs.
Cost is VERY DIFFERENT however.
I have 6 big tractor tires, and "Beet Juice" is just too rich for my wallet.
Remember: I was once a Maine "Black Bear"!

Now we're at a 72 lbs./tire difference, even more of a weight gain, and you sure WWF is a bargain compared to Rimguard, here there or anywhere, big weight gain is quite important to Me. >>> https://www.walmart.com/search/?que...1198718129&wl5=9002644&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&veh=sem

 

[Oldpath05]

For guys such as us who use their machine for logging, this is a great alternative to welded ones. I had planned to experiment with a special "glue" this summer with some special concoction a kid made up at a local college. He told me "this glue will be almost as strong as a weld". It was made out of some sea animal or something. I dunno where the kid went but he seems no longer at this institution.

I dont know if it was one of those things that happens once in a blue moon or Murphy's Law when my son broke the valve stem or not. I used the tractor from 07-14 in the woods and never broke the stem, maybe the first set of tires that came with the tractor were tubeless and the valve stems was stronger than the tube stems, just not sure, but either way a lesson was learned.

Welded valve protectors are good but cant be removed, glued might work, might be easer to remove. I kind of like stuff/add ons to be removable with bolts.

 

[fried1765]

Now we're at a 72 lbs./tire difference, even more of a weight gain, and you sure WWF is a bargain compared to Rimguard, here there or anywhere, big weight gain is quite important to Me. >>> https://www.walmart.com/search/?que...1198718129&wl5=9002644&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&veh=sem

I am VERY happy with WWF @ $1.50/gal.
When compared with Beet Juice at $3.25, plus $75 per tire to install, and 170 miles of travel to do the installation.
I can hang a dedicated 800 lb.+ ballast weight on the 3pt. which gives me plenty of additional weight.
On my Ford 3400, the backhoe weighs 2500 lbs., and I do not even need to load the tires on it.

 

[ovrszd]

I am VERY happy with WWF @ $1.50/gal.

I paid $210 for 195 gallon of WWF. I'm also VERY happy.

 

[grsthegreat]

im done with calcium after one of the tires blew and the crap shot all over the walls of my lean to. it rusted 2 new 4x12 sheets of 12g steel and damaged the shop wall. anywheres it touched rusted. that was years ago. have beet juice now. ive been told if the tire blows with beat juice, it looks like a crime scene.

 

[Reg]

" The last five years I was routinely replacing the cores on both rear tires every year. My new tractor has RimGuard and what a joy........ Just one nasty problem, long gone."<<<<<<<<<<<Amen to that nasty problem long gone! I just called the local tractor place to get some Idea of cost vs. headache, the service said sure bring the tires down we'll change it to Rim-Gard, the cost will be in the neighborhood of $250.00 for both tires plus new tubes, said the weight was 11 lbs./gal. and will take around 24 gal/tire, so it sounds to me like I can get both tire done for around $350.00 and if the rims are still good after almost three years, that CaCl headache will be gone. Ask him if I still needed tubes, he said it's a good idea because he said Rimgard is like a lubricant and some of his customers have complained about tire's slipping on the wheels, well we cant have slipping wheels, so tubes it is, so the target date is May 5th, hopefully they wont be swamped with people getting their riding lawnmowers buffed and waxed.....

24 gallons per tire ?
Are those skinny Ags ?
I put a bit more than twice that into 17.5L 24 R4s
Not to get into the R1 vs R4 issue again, but I think my (factory spec) options were 35 gallons per tire for R1s and 50 per tire for R4s.
So more weight on a wider footprint, with less lugs - depends what you're doing and where.