/ Can all tractors flip over easy? #161
Not to turn it back but a "Tunnel Rat" had it a lot harder . . .
Okay tacticalturnip, I think . . . most people do not akin to such behaviors, I know I do not, so let's leave it at that.Oh? Really? Someone in a warzone 50 years ago tasked with going into boobytrapped, jungle, death tunnels had it harder?
You don't say?
I'm 6'5" and weighed 260 pounds at my smallest; tight spaces terrify me, and I'm not too proud to admit it. So, yeah, I have a bit of respect and admiration for people that can squeeze their asses into wells, tunnels, etcetera, whether they're in any real danger or not.
It's almost like we view things through a lens based on our own experiences, and therefore what is and it not impressive might vary from person to person.
"Flipping is front to back" so you flipped your tires front to back?Flipping is front to back, rolling is side to side.
I have a ferguson To30 and it's not easy to roll because I have the tires flipped, which gives it an abnormally wide stance. Dragging the box blade is fine because the 3pt is mounted below the axle, so if it gets stuck on something the front wheels dig into the ground, rather than coming up.
My oliver industrial 77 is super easy to roll, because it's center of gravity is so damned high. I haven't rolled it, but I can see how it would be easy to do so.
A Ford 8N will surely plow. But there are safer, easier to operate 10 year old to 20 year old compact tractors to learn on.
Ford 8N Weight Shipping - no fluids 2,410 lbs
Operating 2,717 lbs
The compact tractor era functionally began when Henry Ford licensed Harry Ferguson's tractor and Three Point Hitch design in 1939. The tractor industry uniformly adopted the Three Point Hitch after 1955, when Ferguson's patents began to expire and his tractor and Three Point Hitch design were available to industry participants besides Ford open source.
Improvements in approximate order: Power Steering, "live" then "independent" PTOs, Rollover Protection, 4-WD, Industrial Tires, Loaders, later Loaders and attachments with SSQA couplers, synchromesh geared transmissions, Diesel Engines, heavier tractors with Category 2-3-4-5 TPH, TPH telescoping Lower Links + pin-adjustable Lower Link stabilizers, Landscaping tractors of <2,000 pounds bare tractor weight, hydrostatic transmissions, shuttle shift gear transmissions, cruise control, Cabs with heat and AC. And, continuously, shields separating operator from moving parts.
I’m just a dumb ol’ engineer, who aced all the structures classes, while working his way through college as a bolted steel, and fireproofing inspector, and didn’t become a structural engineer only because I got a lot better offers to go be a construction guy, and build things.Surprised? That's what you get if you believe the media circus and do not investigate yourself... I'm just an ordinairy guy, did not believe that an aluminium aircraft could penetrate a steel constructed sky scraper build to resist an impact like this and then make it come down like?? well ?? right ! a well prepared demolision, tree times in a row. And the world watched and said: "oh the metal was so hot, it pan caked" yeah sure. Why did survivors hear bombs go off like clockwork before the collapse? Where did the heat come from to melt metal? Kerosine exploded on impact... Think again, before telling me to get help. It simple logic, which you should understand if you're the same type of engineer like I am, and the reason why I love old tractors, cars and bikes...
Nor a new sub compact...........I think the OP is talking about flipping over backwards. Any tractor can do that but I will say a 70yr old 20hp machine is not the machine to plow new ground with.
Yep, you seem to know everything about it, so you're saying it was indeed controlled demolision and a pancake effect both at the same time. I only should not have written that I don't believe the pancake effect. Okay, the result is still the same.You are right that it was a well planned demolition.
I do know quite a bit about it. I read the report published by the Engineering Societies, on what happened and how. And have enough background to read it intelligently, and understand most of what they said. I think there were several versions. One dumbed down to a fifth grade level for the politicians, one dumbed down to a high school or college student with a SEM background, one one aimed at Engineers who understand the basics of structures. Very similar to a thesis from a grad student, or dissertation from a doctoral candidate.Yep, you seem to know everything about it, so you're saying it was indeed controlled demolision and a pancake effect both at the same time. I only should not have written that I don't believe the pancake effect. Okay, the result is still the same.
What I saw was not a raging fire and seen recent other towers burning completely like a torch but not coming down, I say this clearly still remains an inside job.
Apart from all this, I find it beyond believe how the owner could say in an interview the day after "Building7 was so much burned down (hardly flames visible), we decided to pull it." Like every building has a button that says "push here to start controlled demolision" hahahahah what a joke.
I'm just frustrated that "the powers that be" can run a theatre like this in plain view of the world and get away with it and start a war over it that killed even more innocent people.
Bloody hell, this world is so bent out of shape.