Can anyone succinctly explain trailering numbers found in a Ford Vin lookup?

[newbury]

For instance on a 2023 F150, 5.0L V8 Engine a VIN lookup shows:
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt. 10500, 9500, 8100 lbs 7600.0 min 13800.0 max

I'm ASSUMing that means it has a 13,800 max tow capacity but y'all know what they say about ASSUMe.
But what are all the other numbers?
Trying to work with a dealer they want a ton of details before they'll talk to me.

 

[bcp]

Maybe those numbers are on here, starting about halfway down.

https://www.ford.com/cmslibs/content/dam/brand_ford/en_us/brand/cpo/pdf/2023_Ford_F-150_Towing_Info_Dec16.pdf

Why doesn't the dealer know what it means?

Bruce

 

[newbury]

Why doesn't the dealer know what it means?

Bruce

Thanks for the link.
The last three dealers I tried to deal with always had to "consult" someone with more knowledge and didn't get back to me.
I've found that I usually have to go in to the dealership, which I don't want to do until I've found something they have on the lot.
/edit
And I've read that with the new beer can bodies they are "tuned" to a maximum tow weight far closer than those of the past.

 

[bcp]

This might help. I didn't see one for 2023 but probably little change.

https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/dam/aem_fleet/en_us/fleet/vin-guides/2022_VIN_Guide.pdf

Bruce

 

[bcp]

Mayby this:

https://vpic.nhtsa.dot.gov/mid/home/displayfile/80532849-df78-41d0-9c6b-ca62ca456c93

Bruce

 

[Farmer495]

You have the actual VIN for the truck or you are just trying to figure out what one could tow?

Looks like anywhere from 8300 to 13000 on the Ford tow chart

https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/dam/aem_fleet/en_us/fleet/towing-guides/2023_Ford_RVandTrailerTowingGuide_Nov22.pdf

 

[tshep]

I am frustrated with towing specs also.
They show combos they will not let you order - maybe that's it.
I want a 5.0 3.73 - not allowed, but rated.

 

[bcp]

For anyone looking for data on 1967-2017 Fords:

Marti Auto Works - Marti Report

Bruce

 

[bcp]

I am frustrated with towing specs also.
They show combos they will not let you order - maybe that's it.
I want a 5.0 3.73 - not allowed, but rated.

I wonder if those may be for export only as they might lower average fuel economy in the US.

Bruce

 

[Yander]

You might have gotten a lot more responses if you didn't add the qualifier "succinctly".

 

[Topzide]

Pretty easy to figure out. Cab, wheel base length, 2wd or 4wd and trans + axle ratio combo gives what you can tow and numbers on the left are the total weight of vehicle contents and trailer weight and load. GCWR = gross combined weight ratio. You have to figure the weight of truck and the payload, than what the tongue weight on hitch. As long as this doesn't go over the gross vehicle axle weights, then you can add weight of trailer and load to stay under the numbers on the left matching truck options. Hope this helps.

 

[dodge man]

A couple of other numbers to look at. The payload often limits what you can tow, that number is on the door jamb sticker and is for that exact truck the way it was built. It includes all fluids including a full tank of fuel but no driver. On an F150 it can range from about 1300 pounds to 2400 pounds roughly.

The other number is any hitch weight over 500 pounds or trailer weight over 5000 pounds needs a weight distribution hitch.

 

[RustyA]

Max is probably referencing max tow package which lowers gears to 3:73 and used to require 3.5 Ecoboost and certain wheel/tire combo to support additional payload/trailer load.

 

[square1]

Remember The Snowman (Jerry Reed) explaining to The Bandit (Burt Reynolds) how they would switch CB channels to outwit Smokie (Jackie Gleason)?
That!

 

[wolfpack2]

Ford now has a VIN specific towing calculator on their web site for the F SERIES. You do need to create an account and then add the VIN to your account. On the Vehicle Dashboard there will be a Tow calculator tile you can click on. From there it will tell you the GCWR and max trailer ratings for conventional, gooseneck, and fifth wheel. you can adjust how much you are carrying in the truck and it will change the trailer ratings based on the remaining payload and GCWR. I do not know how far back the data goes but it works for my 2020.

https://www.ford.com/support/towing-calculator

 

[Bearsixty7]

Ford now has a VIN specific towing calculator on their web site for the F SERIES. You do need to create an account and then add the VIN to your account. On the Vehicle Dashboard there will be a Tow calculator tile you can click on. From there it will tell you the GCWR and max trailer ratings for conventional, gooseneck, and fifth wheel. you can adjust how much you are carrying in the truck and it will change the trailer ratings based on the remaining payload and GCWR. I do not know how far back the data goes but it works for my 2020.

https://www.ford.com/support/towing-calculator

I have an account and our truck is there but no Tow calculator, maybe it's only for F150's?? we have an F350.

 

[newbury]

Ford now has a VIN specific towing calculator on their web site for the F SERIES. You do need to create an account and then add the VIN to your account. On the Vehicle Dashboard there will be a Tow calculator tile you can click on. From there it will tell you the GCWR and max trailer ratings for conventional, gooseneck, and fifth wheel. you can adjust how much you are carrying in the truck and it will change the trailer ratings based on the remaining payload and GCWR. I do not know how far back the data goes but it works for my 2020.

https://www.ford.com/support/towing-calculator

Thanks, that is an excellent link (so far)
The Ford vin decoder I had been using produced:
11300, 8200 lbs 7700.0 min 13900.0 max

The link to the Ford site says 11,300 for conventional with w/d.

/edit
didn't work for a 2019, no tow calculator
worked for a 2020
Ford Truck vin decoder -
Wt Distributing Hitch - Max Trailer Wt.12500, 12500, 10500, 10500, 10500, 10500, 10500, 7000, 5000 lbs 5000.0 min 12700.0 max

link to the Ford site calculator - 12447

 

[wolfpack2]

I have an account and our truck is there but no Tow calculator, maybe it's only for F150's?? we have an F350.

MY 2020 F350 has it. What year is your truck? Not sure what year they have data for.

 

[Bearsixty7]

MY 2020 F350 has it. What year is your truck? Not sure what year they have data for.

2019. As mentioned above, that year doesn't have it for some reason.

 

[AnotherBueller]

For anyone looking for data on 1967-2017 Fords:

Marti Auto Works - Marti Report

Bruce

Thank You been looking for that