Canadians not welcome at JD - USA

[canuck50]

ScottK

Importing to Canada is simple. One just pays the same taxes at the border as they would as if purchased in Canada. The State taxes are waived if there is an export certificate. The problem with using a US PO box as an address is that US state taxes would have to be paid so that would mean double taxes
The lower prices and savings in the USA are not about taxes they are about real competition and a more efficient market in the USA.
When the nearest alternative dealer in Canada is more than 10hrs drive away the local dealer knows he has the only Green in town. He also knows that its similar with the other two ( "blue" and "orange") so thats why going across to the USA is the only real competition. Like another poster says its just setting prices at what they know the local market will bare.
My point is JD corporate should stay out of the issue and let fair competition and free markets prevail.
I doubt any one from USA or where ever would like being charged more for something they wanted to buy in Canada just because they were going to export it. Its called discrimination.

 

[Red55]

ScottK

My point is JD corporate should stay out of the issue and let fair competition and free markets prevail.
I doubt any one from USA or where ever would like being charged more for something they wanted to buy in Canada just because they were going to export it. Its called discrimination.

Scott you're right on all accounts and I'm NOT looking to stir the pot but things are not fair and citizens from the US are not allowed to buy any stuff they want from Canada. Once again it's our corporations that determine what's good for us while talking up free trade! I'm talking about drugs that are invented and manufactured here in the USA and we pay the highest prices in the world. Now you may not need that tractor this month but if you don't get those drugs your doc prescribed you may not be here next month. SORRY for going off topic. . . -Ed

 

[AndyMA]

ScottK

The problem with using a US PO box as an address is that US state taxes would have to be paid so that would mean double taxes

You could buy it in a state like New Hampshire with no sales taxes.

Andy

 

[Robert_in_NY]

My point is JD corporate should stay out of the issue and let fair competition and free markets prevail.
I doubt any one from USA or where ever would like being charged more for something they wanted to buy in Canada just because they were going to export it. Its called discrimination.

So John Deere should stay out of "their" dealers business so you can save some money? Have you contacted John Deere about this and asked them about it or do you just want to complain?

I live an hour from the Peace Bridge right on the edge of Lake Erie. It is very easy for me to go to Canada if I want to. However, I have only been to Canada once in my life. I never wanted the hassels of driving an hour plus just to go shopping and I didn't want to get stuck waiting another hour at the border and I didn't want the hassels of dealing with the customs guys as I bring things back across the border.

If you don't like Deeres policy the buy another brand and stop whining

 

[ljrobinson]

This is quickly becoming another one of the advantages of being a Canadian. We typically earn less than our US friends, pay way more taxes, have way more governement to deal with and now inspite of a strong Canadain dollar vs the US dollar, we now get to pay more! As Canadians consumers we have taken this kind of crap for far to long. With the dollar at par, a US price now equals a Canadian price.

 

[CinderSchnauzer]

If you don't like Deeres policy the buy another brand and stop whining

Not sure I would have expected this type of reply from you Robert. Any of your posts I have read so far seem more balanced. Did anyone suggest you should stop whining when you were telling us all about your "engine rebuild" problems?

One of the things I really like about TBN is that most of the time people are allowed to have "opinions" and to express same even if everyone does not agree 100%.

In my opinion, discussing price discrimination is not "whining" For example the FEL on my 3320 is made in Welland ON. Does it make sense to accept it should be $$$$ cheaper in the US? Does it make sense that Silverado trucks made in Oshawa ON are $10,000 cheaper in the US? How about Bombardier procucts made in PQ? Sorry, commenting on and trying to change that sort of thing is not "whining."

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Not sure I would have expected this type of reply from you Robert. Any of your posts I have read so far seem more balanced. Did anyone suggest you should stop whining when you were telling us all about your "engine rebuild" problems?

One of the things I really like about TBN is that most of the time people are allowed to have "opinions" and to express same even if everyone does not agree 100%.

In my opinion, discussing price discrimination is not "whining" For example the FEL on my 3320 is made in Welland ON. Does it make sense to accept it should be $$$$ cheaper in the US? Does it make sense that Silverado trucks made in Oshawa ON are $10,000 cheaper in the US? How about Bombardier procucts made in PQ? Sorry, commenting on and trying to change that sort of thing is not "whining."

I am sorry if I sound a little harsh on this topic. But I get tired of people always bashing the OEM's. Deere doesn't like Canadians now because they implemented a policy to help their "Canadian" dealers. How does that make sense? Deere is doing what they feel is right. If people do not agree then contact Deere and ask about it or express your displeasure to them. If anything the US dealers should be upset as Deere didn't protect them when some customers bought from Canada and brought the tractors back here and now that the Deere dealers in the US have a chance to return the favor Deere corp says no.

If there are so few dealers in Canada like the OP says then maybe the dealers need these sales in order to stay in business. Otherwise what good is having a Deere tractor up there if there is no dealer.

One thing I know about John Deere is that they are not a stupid company and they do not discriminate. If they put this policy into affect then they did so for a reason. Deere wants to sell tractors to everyone but they need to keep their dealers financially sound in the process.

My engine thread wasn't started to whine about anything. I posted it in hopes of selling my tractor to settle the problem. From there people asked questions and I answered honestly without naming anyone or bashing anyone. I tried to work things out with my dealer and just came back from there today in another attempt to settle my dispute.

As for why some items are cheaper in the US then they are in Canada, well I don't know. It could be taxes or something to that affect but I have no idea how the business structure works up there. Maybe Deere corp would be the ones to ask that question to. I know when I have contacted Agco before they have been very helpful in answering questions that I have had. Contact Deere and ask them. Or contact GM and ask them.

 

[canuck50]

So John Deere should stay out of "their" dealers business so you can save some money? Have you contacted John Deere about this and asked them about it or do you just want to complain?

I live an hour from the Peace Bridge right on the edge of Lake Erie. It is very easy for me to go to Canada if I want to. However, I have only been to Canada once in my life. I never wanted the hassels of driving an hour plus just to go shopping and I didn't want to get stuck waiting another hour at the border and I didn't want the hassels of dealing with the customs guys as I bring things back across the border.

If you don't like Deeres policy the buy another brand and stop whining

With all due respect, you have the option to not read this thread. I will exercise that option with regard to your comments. Your comments and tag line indicate no other responce to your comments would be productive.
Tks

 

[AKfish]

One thing is clear --- if no one complains --- (or as Robert likes to view it; whines) the discriminatory pricing policy that Deere has enacted will continue.

In the US, if you believe that a company has or is currently utilizing a "business strategy" (i.e. CHEATING, etc) and therefore, there may be a legal question regarding said practice -- consumers can "WHINE" to their State or Federal Attorney General's office.

I'd be on the phone to the corporate folk's. And I'd drop a dime, to my AG's office; for a legal opinion...

My $0.10 cense..

AKfish

 

[Robert_in_NY]

With all due respect, you have the option to not read this thread. I will exercise that option with regard to your comments. Your comments and tag line indicate no other responce to your comments would be productive.
Tks

Well then what are you hoping to accomplish with your thread? Are you looking for ways to address this problem? Are you looking for options to circumvent this problem? Or are you just venting?

Have you done anything to try and address this "problem" yet?