carryall use

[Northland]

Here's the response from TarterGate. I am happy that my carry-all is the 1000 lb'r

Thank you for your recent purchase of our Farm Force Carry All. We appreciate your patronage of our products.
Our website shows the American Farmland Carry All, the lift capacity for this product is only 500 lbs which is listed on the dimensions table.
This carry all is a little lighter made product than our Tractor Supply
brand Farm Force.
The Farm Force Carry All is a heavy duty piece of equipment which makes the lift capacity more, our recommended lift/carry capacity for the Farm Force Carry All is 1000 lb, as listed on the TSC website.
I know that this is a little confusing, if you have any additional questions please feel free to contact me at anytime.
Thanks again for using Farm Force products,
Misty Bastin
Tarter Gate
10739 S. US 127
Dunnville, Ky 42528
1-800-733-4283

 

[Northland]

You guys were soooo right about the carry-all. I stole your designs and just love using it.

Before I got my B7800 I use to drive my 4x4 up my hillside, buck my maple logs with my Husky chainsaw, fill up my wheelbarrow, wheel it to the truck and throw them in the back of the truck, drive back to my wood shed, get in the bed and throw the logs out and then split them with my maul.

Now I drive my tractor up the hill with my chainsaw/gas/water etc., on my carry-all, pull the logs out with my sling choker hooked to the drawbar, cut the maple logs into 4 to 6 foot lenghts and then pick them up with the bucket/grapple as well as the carry-all and then bring them intact to the wood shed where I buck and then split them. A whole lot easier, more efficient and cleaner for the logs. Some day when I am too old to swing the maul I will buy a 3 pt or gas wood splitter.

Here's how I spent my day-see pictures

 

[DAP]

Northland .... I know this horse has been beat to death, but could you post a pic of your joystick? Is that WRLong valve electric solenoid variety?

I haven't seen to many grapples installed on B7800s, and I'm thinkin I want one maybe ...

Congrats on the Carryall Forks .. now get yourself a PTO driven generator that you can bolt right on to the carry all and you can take some serious power out to the field with you ...

 

[Northland]

DAP-here's my thread on the graple install along with pictures

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1148747#post1148747

Yes, it's the WR Long electric valve kit. I bought it from Carver Equip for US $600 and bought my grapple from Andy Tatro for US$435.

I had considered getting Payne bolt in forks along with the logging extensions and stabilzers. All that would have cost me $500 or so. In talking with my neighbours (all who are loggers or sell firewood) they all urged me to go with the grapple. For my needs, moving rocks and logs, the grapple was the way to go. Prior to the grapple I found, even with the toothbar, that I kept pushing everything I was trying to pick-up. Now I just drive up, tilt the bucket downwards a touch until I figure I have the teeth under what I am picking up, close the grapple and then curl the bucket. 90% of the time I can't see what I am picking up but it doesn't matter.

After $1000+ into my set-up I can say I am happy with my investment.

I also just got some cool plastic hose protector sleeving from my local shop-see picture attached.

I am deciding between a PTO gen and a gas one right now. I only need it for home back-up right now.

 

[Spiveyman]

I just found this thread while looking for some other things. It seems to have slowed down a bit, but since I'm here. My carry all is about like every one elses except that I'm so new to this that I haven't had a chance to get it good and dirty. I used the TSC/KK frame, painted blue to match the tractor of course, and treated lumber. I frequently have kids that want to ride with me on the tractor, or need to take a buddy to the back of the farm to do something. Riding on the 3pt system ain't the best ride, and is very dangerous for kids. I haven't gone so far as to bolt chairs like one poster did because I still need to use it on the farm, but for giving rides on the tractor it's not a bad option.

 

[Northland]

nice job spiveyman! That's a huge area for hauling. Lot's of carriage bolts too. The screw in eye hooks are very clever for bungy cording things down to the carry-all.

 

[Spiveyman]

nice job spiveyman! That's a huge area for hauling. Lot's of carriage bolts too. The screw in eye hooks are very clever for bungy cording things down to the carry-all.

Thanks, I started out planning something a lot narrower, but then decided, heck the tractor's over 8 feet wide. Might as well make this thing pretty close to that. Yeah, it did take a good number of bolts, washers, lock washers, and nuts to assemble. I added the 2X4's on the ends for stability and to tie the whole thig together. Then my papaw told me about having to move his refrigerator on his carry all, so I decided to make it easier to use a tie down strap with those eye hooks. After looking around on TBN I've seen lots of other utility mods to these things. I'll probably try some of them.

 

[Cottonhawk]

I just found this thread and read all the posts. It sure has a lot of good information relating to carryall use.
I am not sure what I have is called carryall but I named it FEC for Front End Carryall. It was delivered today. It can carry all kind of stuff from firewood, forest debri, to grandchildren. It can also used as a work platform for triming tree branches or blackberry picking. Here are couple of pics of my new FEC......

 

[Spiveyman]

Just curious, I've been strongly advised not to use a FEL as a "cherry picker" because it would be dangerous if the hydraulics failed. OK, not likely that would happen, but it certainly could. This box is VERY cool, I like the FEC name too. Are there similar safety concerns there? Let us know how you like it. I may have to add that to my growing list of stuff you just have to have! Oh yeah, and where did you get it?

 

[SkunkWerX]

Just curious, I've been strongly advised not to use a FEL as a "cherry picker" because it would be dangerous if the hydraulics failed. OK, not likely that would happen, but it certainly could. This box is VERY cool, I like the FEC name too. Are there similar safety concerns there? Let us know how you like it. I may have to add that to my growing list of stuff you just have to have! Oh yeah, and where did you get it?

Ideally, any hydraulic lift for humans should have check valves, like the pilot check valves on a top n tilt. This way, should a hose blow, the check valves will keep pressure in the cylinder, and keep the man from slamming to the ground.

A small leak in an unprotected system may not be as catastrophic, as it would tend to lower as the fluid/pressure leaked down. A blown hose is a "Zero" leak, and you would pretty much drop like a rock.

 

[Soundguy]

Hose clamps and angle iron could be used to lock the FEC up.. but it sorta defeats the ease of use if you go up and down alot. if using it as a static work platform for like 1+ hr.. the supports could be clamped into place pretty quick by a ground-bound helper.. etc..

Soundguy

 

[Cottonhawk]

I designed the FEC for as broad range of utilities as I can think of. It is also designed to be mobile work plateform with a floor space of 6'x7'. During the design phase I did discuss with my NH dealer regarding the hydraulic and other safety issues. I was told that there are check valves in the front arm cylinders so the FEC will not drop suddenly even with a blown hose. It also is a general practice here to maintain all our equipment at top operating shape to minimize accidents from happening. The FEC should carry up to 1000 lbs weight.
Btw, the FEC is custom build by a local equipment mfg company. They contributed to the design and did an outstanding job.

 

[Spiveyman]

Are those designs proprietary or would you be able to share them? It would be nice to have something to start with if pursuing a similar product with a local place here.

Thanks

 

[Northland]

Spiveyman-your carry-all is so pretty that I feel compelled to go out and paint my yellow carry-all and rear blade Kubit Orange.

 

[Spiveyman]

Ha! That's funny. My partner totally makes fun of me for that. Can't help it though, I just wanted the stuff to match my tractor. I bought a bale spear and a boom pole from TSC too, all the same yellow color, so I had to paint them Ford blue too. I'm in the process of picking out a good box blade, but I don't think I'm going to fool with painting that thing. After the first use half of it would be scraped off anyways.

 

[Cottonhawk]

Spiveyman,
I'll be glad to share the design dimensions of FEC.
The FEC is built by the equipment mfg who custom build my utility trailer exactly the same way they build the trailer.....
1. Overall dimension is 4'x6'x3'. My FEC is slightly less than 6' wide in order to fit the inside width of my utility trailer for distant transport. It is also designed so that my largest wheelbarrow can fit inside the FEC easily.
2. FEC has four 3" legs, one each corner, to rest on the ground. The legs are 4x4x3 steel tubes weld to the bottom of the cage frame and with steel plate welded on the bottom.
3. The frame construction is a welded cage with 2x2 steel tubes.
It is carried by front load forklift attachment with widest setting for stability. It is done by weld two 4' rectangular steel tubes on the bottom of the cage.
4. The bottom is 1/2'' steel plate with drain holes and the side is steel mesh (standard used on the sides of most utility trailers) weld on the frame. The front gate is latched on the bottom and secured by steel chain on each side such that when its fully opened the gate and the bottom form a 6遅7 work platform.
5. Inside on the bottom there are four d-rings welded on the bottom of each corner. On the outside of the frame there is a tie bar on all four sides.
6. The frame is secured to the frame of the forklift frame by two screwed on shackles.
7. It is painted with the same paint used on utility trailers.
8. FEC weigh a bit over 400 lbs.
Well, this is it. I hope that this list helpful to your design.

 

[Northland]

Ha! That's funny. My partner totally makes fun of me for that. Can't help it though, I just wanted the stuff to match my tractor. I bought a bale spear and a boom pole from TSC too, all the same yellow color, so I had to paint them Ford blue too. I'm in the process of picking out a good box blade, but I don't think I'm going to fool with painting that thing. After the first use half of it would be scraped off anyways.

I think you should paint your box blade Ford blue as well...seriously. Your tractor and carry-all look great so why not keep it all the same. I'm inspired now so I bought a can of new Kubota orange at TSC. I had half a can of Tremclad orange from my grapple installation so I am going to paint my two implements now.

 

[Spiveyman]

Thanks for the specs on your FEC, Cottonhawk. I guess it makes sense to use a trailer manufacturer for something like that. Now I just need to check with my FEL guy to make sure I have check valves like you do.

 

[Spiveyman]

I think you should paint your box blade Ford blue as well...seriously. Your tractor and carry-all look great so why not keep it all the same. I'm inspired now so I bought a can of new Kubota orange at TSC. I had half a can of Tremclad orange from my grapple installation so I am going to paint my two implements now.

Hmmmm.... that's almost like a dare..... I'll have to give that some serious thought. You know... Flusher posted a picture of his tractor, FEL, and BB on another post recently. Here's a smaller version of that picture (I hope you don't mind me posting this Flusher, I'm doing it as a compliment)



That is such a nice looking package, just wouldn't be the same if that BB was yellow or something. OK, so maybe I'll have to give it a shot when I get the money saved up to buy a BB.

 

[Northland]

yes Spiveyman, that photo just confirms the appeal of color-matching all your tractor parts. I like the screen on the ROPs as well. Any idea of what that is made of? I have had a few stones and tree parts come through that ROPs opening and ding me so that screen makes a lot of sense