Case-Ingersoll Tiller for a PT?

[KentT]

My latest score on attachments to modify and adapt for my PT-425 is one of these hydraulic tillers for a Case or Ingersoll garden tractor.

It has a hitch that originally pinned on the tractor's 3PT hitch bar. I'm trying to design something that I can put on a PT QA plate that will allow me to pin it on so that I can offset it to ether side to till out my wheel tracks. It is only 41" wide, and my track is now at least a foot wider with the large 28ci wheel motors I'm running.

I picked my tiller up for $400, shipped and delivered - a cool $1000 less than a new 48" one. Hope to get it modded in the next few weeks, ready for spring time gardening... Note that these are pics from the 'Net. Mine is actually white, and has a complete shroud, not missing the piece in the one pic.

 

[MossRoad]

Nice find! :thumbsup:

 

[J_J]

Does your PT have enough GPM's to run the tiller?

It will probably turn it regardless of the GPM's.

What's good about hyd tillers is that you can do a reverse till..

 

[KentT]

The 425 PTO pumps 8 GPM at 2500 PSI. I think -- not sure -- that the spec for that tiller is 10 GPM max. It is for their 10-14 HP tractors.

 

[J_J]

If their tractors are 14 HP, they can pump about 8 GPM at 2500 psi, so you seem to have a good match for your 425.

 

[KentT]

Yep, and these are much more affordable than JD or others out there...

Case Ingersoll H 70 Hydraulic Tiller | eBay

 

[KentT]

Got my first chance to use this today, so I thought I'd provide some pics. It's not as pretty as some of the pics I'd posted from the web earlier...

Since the tiller is not as wide as my PT's stance, I made the mount so that I could offset the tiller to either side, and adjust its offset in about 3" increments using the original mounting holes:

This garden spot had not been plowed or tilled in at least 3 years, and it was still a bit too wet, but I was getting impatient. Results of first pass:

After a second pass:

Overall, I'm quite pleased with it, on my first use. Once I get more familiar with it, and perhaps learn how to back up an articulated machine in a straight line, it will work just fine...

 

[cqaigy2]

Sweet!

Which direction does it turn? What happens if you try to drive forward, other then run over your tilled soil? Maybe forward once or twice as needed and do the last run backward to leave it pretty.

If i didn't have a smallish tiller already....

 

[KentT]

It spins toward the PT from the top. It can be used driving forward, kind of like a tiller with counter-rotating tines, but you can't do it with the lift arms in float position. In float position, going forward, the PT will try to climb up onto the tiller rather than push it into the untilled soil. You can push it forward, as long as you're controlling the lift arms.

Works fine in float position if you drive in reverse. The challenge becomes backing up in a straight line. The only way I could do that was to totally ignore what the tiller was doing, and focus on driving in reverse. If I watched the tiller, I'd inevitably overcorrect...

 

[woodlandfarms]

That is a huge garden. Huge... Nice idea on the offset....

 

[MossRoad]

Very nice! :thumbsup:

 

[KentT]

Surprisingly, even the PTO hoses fit, though I did have to swap ports with them to get the correct rotation. They're a bit short, should you rotate the tiller down as far as possible, but plenty long enough for normal use. For $400 plus the QA plate, I'm pleased...

 

[TRUKFXR]

Surprisingly, even the PTO hoses fit, though I did have to swap ports with them to get the correct rotation. They're a bit short, should you rotate the tiller down as far as possible, but plenty long enough for normal use. For $400 plus the QA plate, I'm pleased...

I Have a similar one. The only difference is mine is bright orange. I got it in trade for a small Ingersoll wood chipper that I wasn't using anyway. $400. is a great price
for the one you found. I am sure you agree it is very well built. I used mine for the first time this year clearing sod and blackdirt off an area 12'x120'. It would have
taken me much longer withour the tiller. Actually, I don't think I would have even tried with my Gehl. It would have worn us both out. My only problem was burying
it in float position. I would like to fashion some kind of skids for the tiller, but I do not see a good way of doing it.

 

[KentT]

I Have a similar one. The only difference is mine is bright orange. I got it in trade for a small Ingersoll wood chipper that I wasn't using anyway. $400. is a great price
for the one you found. I am sure you agree it is very well built. I used mine for the first time this year clearing sod and blackdirt off an area 12'x120'. It would have
taken me much longer withour the tiller. Actually, I don't think I would have even tried with my Gehl. It would have worn us both out. My only problem was burying
it in float position. I would like to fashion some kind of skids for the tiller, but I do not see a good way of doing it.

My custom-designed mount seems to function as skids when I'm backing up. I use the tilt to control the final tilling depth, and it works well in float -- IF I am going backwards. Going forward in float, the weight of the lift arms pushes it deep and the PT tries to climb up onto it...

 

[KentT]

Radishes, cucumbers, carrots, purple and yellow onions, potatoes, okra, cantaloupe, watermelon, pumpkin and zucchini, crookneck & buttercup squash, and marigolds planted. Now to get the tomatoes & bell peppers in the ground.

 

[marrt]

Looks good. I used to live in Sevierville...off Douglas Dam Road. Nice area. A LOT cheaper than Northern VA.

 

[MossRoad]

Wife and I used to go through Sevierville on way to Smokies every few years. Can't believe how much that area has grown between there and Pigeon Forge. Same way with area between Cincinnatti and Dayton.

Anyhow, nice looking tilled area. Too cold for tomatoes and peppers here yet. Did get peas, beans, carrots, radishes and potatoes in last week. Trees are just starting to bud here. We're expecting lots of fruit damage due to the extreme cold for extended period over the winter. Have to wait and see.

 

[KentT]

Looks good. I used to live in Sevierville...off Douglas Dam Road. Nice area. A LOT cheaper than Northern VA.

I know that area pretty well. I now live not far away, in the "knobs" off Gists Creek Road, on the opposite side of Hwy 66. It is certainly much more affordable than Nothern VA. I declined jobs in the DC area several times, both while in the Air Force, and later. Too expensive, too congested, and too much traffic. At least here I know the back roads here and can avoid most of the tourist traffic...

Wife and I used to go through Sevierville on way to Smokies every few years. Can't believe how much that area has grown between there and Pigeon Forge. Same way with area between Cincinnatti and Dayton.

Anyhow, nice looking tilled area. Too cold for tomatoes and peppers here yet. Did get peas, beans, carrots, radishes and potatoes in last week. Trees are just starting to bud here. We're expecting lots of fruit damage due to the extreme cold for extended period over the winter. Have to wait and see.

I was born in Sevierville, long ago, in a little 6-8 bed hospital attached to the doctor's home. It has changed dramatically -- reminds me of the folk song "They paved paradise and put a parking lot...." But, this is home, and it feels good to be back close to my family and my roots. My maternal great-grandparents are buried inside the Great Smoky Mountains National Park, in Cades Cove. My ancestors came over the mountains and settled here in the early 1800s, and the roots go deep... I'm 1/8th Cherokee.

I'm a bit late in getting the potatoes and onions in -- the garden spot down by the creek was too wet to till. I may be a bit early with the tomatoes and green peppers, but I hope not. I planted them after the pic above was taken. In a normal year, we should be past the danger of frost...

Redbuds have bloomed and are past their prime. Dogwoods are in bloom on the hillsides everywhere, and you can see the difference in the size of the leaves in the trees overnight... spring is coming in quickly.

 

[amscontr]

My latest score on attachments to modify and adapt for my PT-425 is one of these hydraulic tillers for a Case or Ingersoll garden tractor.

It has a hitch that originally pinned on the tractor's 3PT hitch bar. I'm trying to design something that I can put on a PT QA plate that will allow me to pin it on so that I can offset it to ether side to till out my wheel tracks. It is only 41" wide, and my track is now at least a foot wider with the large 28ci wheel motors I'm running.

I picked my tiller up for $400, shipped and delivered - a cool $1000 less than a new 48" one. Hope to get it modded in the next few weeks, ready for spring time gardening... Note that these are pics from the 'Net. Mine is actually white, and has a complete shroud, not missing the piece in the one pic.

We just picked one like the one in the pictures and we're going to "rig" it up on our PT180.