Cat. 1 and 2 three point hitches

[deereman10]

Just wondering if theres a major difference between a category 1 and a category 2 three point hitch. Will an implement for a category 1 work with a tractor that has a category 2?

 

[Transit]

Yes, BUT?. There are some important things to consider:

A] The HP rating of the Cat 1 device will be less than the power available to drive it from a Cat 2 PTO.
B] the attachment pins for Cat 1 are smaller than Cat 2 pins and you will need bushings to take up the slake.

 

[art]

Many aftermarket companies try to combine hitches so they can get a better return on their investment by making the attachments fit multiple size tractors and hitches!

There are many cat 1-2 as well as 2-3 and 3-4 hitched attachments and from time to time it does cause problems with the hitch arms being out at the cat -2 width when the hitch is equipped with pins for cat 1 and being installed on a cat 1 size tractor.

Many tractors will take two sizes some times with a simple bushing or by switching the lower links from one end to the other.

 

[TrenaryDucks]

Found this information on the web somewhere. Maybe you can use it.

CAT 0 specs.
Top link pin dia = 5/8"
draw pin dia = 5/8"
lift arm spacing = 20"

Cat 1 specs.
Top link pin dia = 3/4"
draw pin dia = 7/8"
lift arm spcaing = 26"

Cat 2 specs.
Top link pin dia = 1"
Draw pin dia = 1 1/8"
lift arm spacing = 32"

Cat 3 specs.
Top link pin dia = 1 1/4"
draw pin dia = 1 7/16"
lift arm spacing = 38"

 

[RoyJackson]

Found this information on the web somewhere. Maybe you can use it.

Cat 1 specs.
Top link pin dia = 3/4"
draw pin dia = 7/8"
lift arm spcaing = 26"

Cat 2 specs.
Top link pin dia = 1"
Draw pin dia = 1 1/8"
lift arm spacing = 32"

And you might be able to reverse the draft (lower) link pins on the implement to help with the spacing.

 

[slowzuki]

Most Cat 1 stuff with outside facing pins will fit on Cat 2 hitches. I never bother with bushings, just a pain. Works fine with the extra slop unless you're grading or something exact.

Almost all my stuff is Cat 1 and it goes on a cat 1/2 or a cat 2 hitch no problem. The only one that gives me trouble is my posthole digger, I can't get it on my 100 hp Cat 2 tractor.

 

[deereman10]

Okay. I'm looking to put a 6' king kutter tiller (cat 1) on my JD 2440 (cat 2)

 

[TrenaryDucks]

Okay. I'm looking to put a 6' king kutter tiller (cat 1) on my JD 2440 (cat 2)

I can use Cat 1 on my Zetor 5011 (Agri-Power 5000) tractor which is Cat 1 and 2 both.

I read that your tractor is Cat 2:
TractorData.com John Deere 2440 tractor information

You can always buy Cat 2 to Cat 1 top links. I just wonder if your lift arms can be adjusted to accomodate the Cat 1 width. My feelings are that it can.

 

[deereman10]

I've heard of other guys having the combination that i'm looking at. I'm not sure if they had to make any adjusments though.

 

[TractorTidy]

You could very possibly tear the tiller up w/ that kind of HP on it. If it's a cat 1 implement, then it is designed for use on a lower HP cat 1 tractor like a compact. If you said 2440, you're @ 60 HP. 2240 @ 50. Still too much.

I wouldn't advise.

 

[jenkinsph]

Deereman 10,
Have you looked at a Deere 681 tiller with slip clutch and set up for Cat1 and CAT 2. That would be a good match for a 2440 imo.

 

[slowzuki]

Slip clutch normally would protect the tiller if he got too aggressive. The bigger problem is going slow enough in the big JD.

 

[allen in texas]

My 2 cents...
I run a King Kutter 6 foot tiller behind my Cat 2 L5740 with 50 PTO HP.

The tiller specs call for a recommended hp of 35 to 50 on that particular width. I don't think that means that you can't run a more than that because the 48 inch calls for 20 to 35 horsepower and they use the exact same gearbox and gears. I sure it's a power recommendation for good performance of the tiller
I'm sure the gear box and everything else is built to handle more power and the slip clutch is there to take care of the parts anyway.

As far as the hook up, use bushings and go for it I say. I don't know john deere from squat so I can't talk about forward speed and all that. :ashamed:

 

[deereman10]

Deereman 10,
Have you looked at a Deere 681 tiller with slip clutch and set up for Cat1 and CAT 2. That would be a good match for a 2440 imo.

I have looked at the 681 tiller but... it goes for upwards of $3500 to $4000 where as the King Kutters are between $1500 and $2000. I have also heard from more than one person that King Kutter makes the toughest tillers out there. Tougher than the John Deere's even

 

[jenkinsph]

My 2 cents...
I run a King Kutter 6 foot tiller behind my Cat 2 L5740 with 50 PTO HP.

The tiller specs call for a recommended hp of 35 to 50 on that particular width. I don't think that means that you can't run a more than that because the 48 inch calls for 20 to 35 horsepower and they use the exact same gearbox and gears. I sure it's a power recommendation for good performance of the tiller
I'm sure the gear box and everything else is built to handle more power and the slip clutch is there to take care of the parts anyway.

As far as the hook up, use bushings and go for it I say. I don't know john deere from squat so I can't talk about forward speed and all that. :ashamed:

Something everyone should keep in mind about gearbox ratings is that the ratings are derived at the gearboxes maximum soeed rating. When you check the specs on a gearbox and find the rated speed to be 1500 rpm and 60 hp that doesn't mean you can run it 540 rpm with 60 hp applied. More like 25 hp with the higher torque and low speed set up. May seem misleading but you have to look at the big picture.

 

[jenkinsph]

I have looked at the 681 tiller but... it goes for upwards of $3500 to $4000 where as the King Kutters are between $1500 and $2000. I have also heard from more than one person that King Kutter makes the toughest tillers out there. Tougher than the John Deere's even

I looked at King Kutter tillers last week and will say it looked good for the money but isn't as well made as the Deere 600 series. Might wan't to check on Machio tillers too.

 

[MuleMn]

I would consider Land Pride. Hundreds on tractor house. Look long enough and see them for less than 2k. And they are manufactured in Kansas USA. :thumbsup: My 2 pennies.

The cat one ISO standard is 26" inside lower link with 18" from lower link to center of top link.
The cat two is 32" with 24" lower Link to top. Most of which has been stated here.

To compensate you may use the lower hole on the tractor top link connector if your tractor is equipped with two or more. With the equipment I use, have had no problem mixing tractors and equipment. I adjust the top link to the working conditions. I use my Deere 5095M (cat 2) on a lot of the same equipment that is used on my Case-IH DX 45 and Kubota B3200HST (both cat 1). I do use bushing as we have a shop where they can be custom fitted. I am a believer in Pat's hitches, especially hooking up to disc mower.