Flail Mower chain for top link, flail mower

[allen in texas]

Oh, and another thing you apparently don't realize Larry - is that there's no tail wheel on a flail mower.

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Wow. My thread back on the first page.

You are correct that there is no tail wheel on a flail.

However...
My flail has an 8 inch diameter roller the full width of the flail that it rides on. I carry no weight on the tractor. I just set the flail on the ground, three point all the way down and go. It floats along nicely on the terrain riding on the rear roller.
Like I said in my very first post, If I used a chain for a top link, my flail would flop over forward onto the PTO shaft unless I did carry some of the weight with the lift arms.
Then if the tractor went over a bump, it would try to lift the flail.
If the tractor went into a hole, the nose of the flail will fall down.
Perhaps my flail is different than everyone else's.

 

[greg_g]

When the toplink is attached to the mower, the mower wheel will raise up when your rear tractor wheels crest a hill.

Another one. You're talking rotary cutter. We're trying to have a flail mower discussion here. No tail wheel on a flail mower !!

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[greg_g]

My flail has an 8 inch diameter roller the full width of the flail that it rides on. I carry no weight on the tractor. I just set the flail on the ground, three point all the way down and go. It floats along nicely on the terrain riding on the rear roller..

Yup, every flail I've ever seen works that way. What's confusing the issue here are some rotary cutter folks who've clearly never owned or operated a flail mower

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[sodamo]

Yes. It will. Perhaps you don't understand the principle of "floating". The more you lengthen the distance between the upper and lower lift arms, the more the TPH will float. Short version; get your lower lift arms as close to the dirt as possible - low enough where you have to LIFT THEM UP to attach to the implement. This is done with the adjustable vertical links and/or moving them between/among the various pin holes on the lower lift arms. The more the implement is permitted to float, the less it gets picked up off the ground when cresting hills, and vice versa

Oh, and another thing you apparently don't realize Larry - is that there's no tail wheel on a flail mower.

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Thanks for informative description. There is an area on my PTO control lever marker "Mower Float". Of course, in that position my mower doesn't even touch the ground. Maybe now I know how to adjust LOL.

 

[Heavyduty]

Another one. You're talking rotary cutter. We're trying to have a flail mower discussion here. No tail wheel on a flail mower !!

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Sorry, you don't have to be an arse about it.:thumbsup:

 

[SPYDERLK]

Yes. It will. Perhaps you don't understand the principle of "floating". The more you lengthen the distance between the upper and lower lift arms, the more the TPH will float. Short version; get your lower lift arms as close to the dirt as possible - low enough where you have to LIFT THEM UP to attach to the implement. This is done with the adjustable vertical links and/or moving them between/among the various pin holes on the lower lift arms. The more the implement is permitted to float, the less it gets picked up off the ground when cresting hills, and vice versa

Oh, and another thing you apparently don't realize Larry - is that there's no tail wheel on a flail mower.

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Wrong. Flails do have a tail wheel. Otherwise they could not be floated without cutting a full width furrow in the ground until you ground the knives and the skirts off. Some flails do not run a full rigid toplink, but instead have some free motion built into the top mount so that the rear can rise and fall somewhat around the holdpoint at the ball eyes. Bushogs use this type of setup too. If you are going to float either one of them a fully rigid toplink is a necessity unless they have wheels front and back to support them independent of the tractor.
larry

 

[greg_g]

Wrong. Flails do have a tail wheel.

Photo please. If you can't find one, perhaps you'd point out to us a "tail wheel" in the photos below.

The only thing I can think of that might equate to a tail wheel on a flail mower would be those very very very few owners that might have invested in optional gauge wheels. Or perhaps those huge corn stalk flails that require carriage wheels for getting to/from the fields.

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[jake98]

Sorry, you don't have to be an arse about it.:thumbsup:

Don't start flailing at each other!

 

[SPYDERLK]

Photo please. If you can't find one, perhaps you'd point out to us a "tail wheel" in the photos below.
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Its that long round thing on the back of each that is free to rotate about an axle. A roller is just a special case of the inclusive wheel concept.
The non rigid toplink attachment option is shown in the 1st photo.
larry

 

[greg_g]

Uh-huh. So you consider the roller to be a" tail wheel". Right. This now necessarily begs the question; how many times have you actually used a rear TPH flail mower? Or even seen one operate (anywhere other than attached to highway department tractor)?

What you're calling "that non-rigid toplink attachment" by the way, is actually a floating toplink bracket, just like I described above !!

Anyway. Help me out here. I've lost track of what point or points - if any - that you're actually trying to make, relative to using a chain in place of a toplink for a flail mower.

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