Chainsaw Sharpening question

   / Chainsaw Sharpening question #81  
The CBN wheels do not need to be reshaped like a traditional wheel needs to have done - the CBN wheels are a shaped metal disk with grit attached. The cleaning stick they send with those is mainly for cleaning gunk off of the grit.

Ken
 
   / Chainsaw Sharpening question #82  
The CBN wheels do not need to be reshaped like a traditional wheel needs to have done - the CBN wheels are a shaped metal disk with grit attached. The cleaning stick they send with those is mainly for cleaning gunk off of the grit.

Ken


Ah Ok, couldn't tell he was talking about that type of wheel. So I take it these are only good for sharpening one type of cutter shape i.e., round or square?
 
   / Chainsaw Sharpening question #83  
Ah Ok, couldn't tell he was talking about that type of wheel. So I take it these are only good for sharpening one type of cutter shape i.e., round or square?

Yes and they are 105 bucks a size. Ouch!
 
   / Chainsaw Sharpening question #84  
From their web site:

For round tooth - round ground chipper: Use full radius wheel.
For square tooth - round ground semi-chisel: Use full radius wheel.
For square tooth - square ground chisel: DO NOT use these wheels.

Ken
 
   / Chainsaw Sharpening question #86  
I hate electric and automated sharpeners. I've tried a few but my chains last longer and cut better when I do it by hand with a file. Every tank of gas I give it a quick file and cuts perfect all the time.
 
   / Chainsaw Sharpening question #87  
I used to sharpen chains professionally, and now run a firewood business. Files are safe in the forest because they don't spark, but I prefer other methods..... I start the day always with my chains sharpened in a proper drop-down disc type chainsaw sharpener, and after that, sharpen them in the field because it's quicker. Don't forget to hand oil the chain on remounting it, and grease the front sprocket daily if its greasable).
Every few days I correct the raker tooth height, you CAN do the raker in the electric sharpener by changing over to a wider disc, but I prefer to use a file and a depth gauge for this part, I'd almost have the job done by the time I changed over the disc. I use an old bar held in the vice to hold the chain. It's quite quick, file the raker tooth from the "off side" so the file cuts nicer(ie do ever second raker, then turn the chain around and do every other raker. In softer woods (I do a lot of willow) I use a depth guide at 30 thou instead of 25 thou and get nice big chips, I still have the power because willow is easier to cut. Always use a gauge for the rakers, more (taken off)is not always better, because it will slow the saw down = no power and hard on saw

In the field I sharpen the chain very quickly with a hand held 12 volt sharpener(like a dremmel tool). Mines a stihl, and I've found the white emeries from Stihl are good(last a long time and don't get hot quickly). The field sharpen is just as sharp, but the reason I use the other as well is that a drop down disc grinder is more precise, both teeth are the same length, and this goes a long way to avoiding curving cuts and/or lower performance from a mix of short and long teeth.
Other comments are that if you are cutting large logs, say over 24", try a skip tooth chain. Twice as quick to sharpen, and seem to stay sharp the same amount of time. Nice to use as they require less bar down pressure. On small logs they're usually slightly slower, on larger logs often faster, they don't drag the revs back so much. As you will probably know, 2 strokes power is all in the last few hundred revs at the top end, you will kill you chainsaw by labouring it (overheating),keep it revving! I literally get thousands of hours out of each chainsaw (I use Johnsereds, but the comment is relevant to all 2 stroke engines, especially air cooled). If you can't obtain a cross-cut skip tooth chain, more common is a skip tooth ripping chain. They are fine for cross-cutting, just sharpen the 10 degree rip angle to 25 degrees before using.
If you don't do a lot of sawing, the cheap disc sharpeners are good value. Tip....Mount them on a piece of wood using 4 rubber door stops as feet, instead of bolting it to your bench. This makes it portable, and it will sit still. Add a piece of metal to the rear for a counterweight, and cut away the timber at the front so the chain hangs nicely over the front of the bench, and you'll be sharpening like a pro.
Hope that helps.
 
   / Chainsaw Sharpening question #88  
Years ago I owned and managed a professional arborist and tree removal business and I never touched any chain with a grinding wheel, never. I used the predecessor to the Timberline... The Gamin and I instructed my employees on how to use it as well. I misplaced it over the years and got the Timberline and never looked back.

Everyone has their own particular method. I prefer a tungsten carbide cold cut burr over a grinding wheel anytime. I still file my rakers but thats it.

I do use a Dremel and the appropriate diameter grinding burr on my aerial saw because it has Picco low kickback chain and the Timberline is hard to control on small chain but on 404 chipper or skip tooth, can't be beat, especially with the bar in a stump vise, in the field. I just used it about an hour ago. Just prior to putting 2 saws away for the day and yes, I greased the roller nose bars too.

My regimen is every week I flip the bar (and clean the clutch housings) and when a chain is sharpened out, I switch to a new bar ans chain (and check the clutch teeth). Bars and chains are cheap compared to powerheads.
 
   / Chainsaw Sharpening question #90  
Great info in those last 2 posts Thank you. :)

Actually, all methods work. There is no one method fits everything. I just prefer the Timberline and a carbide burr but it's a PITA on low pro anti kickback chain but I only own one saw with that and it's a top handle Husky professional arborist saw (hint...the new Stihl is expensive garbage. I bought one and it went back for a Husky). That saw requires the Dremel and a grinding stone. Wish it didn't but it does.

Not trying to start a brand war, I have Stihl's as well. Just the Professional Arborist Saw from Stihl is weak. The Husky is a better powerhead.
 

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