cheap tool alert

[TBDonnelly]

I bought the 36" elcheapo bolt cutters there for $20 (or so) and they cut the lock off of the gate for me.

If anyone else is interested...find attached a coupon for $9.99 for the 36" bolt cutters good thru Sept 20th.

Don

 

[Farmwithjunk]

But, hey, are you not happy that I did go to Hardly Freight and I bought some bolt cutters? Better yet, they made it through the first use and still appear to be in fine shape. Do you want me to post a pic of me actually using something from Hardly Freight?

Well, Am I ever happy! Not because of your buying Harpo's Freight tools........I'm just happy 'cause it's MONDAY

 

[Dargo]

I bought the 36" elcheapo bolt cutters there for $20 (or so) and they cut the lock off of the gate for me.

If anyone else is interested...find attached a coupon for $9.99 for the 36" bolt cutters good thru Sept 20th.

Don

Now you made me go check my receipt. I did get them for the sale price of $12.99. The top of your coupon states why I didn't get one; it says it's for "Preferred Customers Only". I suppose I don't qualify for that...

 

[Soundguy]

Ya have to fill out an email add thing to get those fliers usually.

Soundguy

 

[Dargo]

Ya have to fill out an email add thing to get those fliers usually.

Soundguy

Hot dang it! You guys know all the tricks there, and I just can't win! I actually go there, buy a cheap tool, brag that it worked, and I still get slammed. I'm gonna tell my mom if you keep being mean to me...

Keep it up and I'll put up a picture of me cutting my toe nails with those 36" bolt cutters! You know that's why I really bought them...

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Now you made me go check my receipt. I did get them for the sale price of $12.99. The top of your coupon states why I didn't get one; it says it's for "Preferred Customers Only". I suppose I don't qualify for that...

I'd about bet you're on a list of theirs OK, just maybe not the preferred customer list.

 

[TBDonnelly]

it says it's for "Preferred Customers Only". I suppose I don't qualify for that...

Yep, gotta love those 20% coupons. It was a healthy discount off the Briggs & Stratton I/C 6.5hp engine....I purchased back in July

Don

 

[Dargo]

it says it's for "Preferred Customers Only". I suppose I don't qualify for that...

Yep, gotta love those 20% coupons. It was a healthy discount off the Briggs & Stratton I/C 6.5hp engine I bought.

Don

Alright Don, keep it up and I'll cut your toe nails with the 36" bolt cutters!

 

[Soundguy]

I'd about bet you're on a list of theirs OK, just maybe not the preferred customer list.

Is their an 'un-prefered' customer list? (GRIN)

Soundguy

 

[DaryleD]

So.... Why trust someone with thousands of hours of actually using welding hoods as opposed to the company trying to SELL them......

And he's not the first welder I've heard that from.

And would this be the first ever case of something being marketed as "totally safe", then later found to be not quite as safe as first thought?

I'm not saying there isn't any chance that a AD hood is safe. My contention is, the old style ARE safe, and I'm not convinced the AD hoods are. And popular opinion of several people who use this type of equipment on a regular basis have their doubts.

Here again, it is opinion. I use to weld for a living as well. That does not make me an expert on welding helmets, nor does it make any experienced welder an expert on them unless he or she has done some real research. What it does mean is that we can weld and know something about joining metal. I am not saying that a welder doesn't know their job; they do if they are worth their "metal" ( pun intended ). I had the oportunity to use both and never felt like my eyes had been even stressed ( we didn't get the auto darkening helmets until about a year or so before layoffs and final closing, but they were used for 8-12hrs. a day ). I also, like I said, thought as you and Bil do on this UNTIL I thought it through after reading the article and remembering back a few years. The welders that I ran were in a foundry and were big units with gouging feature that we used as well. I know there are alot of false statements made in the process of selling things sometimes, but I do think that things are looked at a little more closely when safety is concerned ( from the powers that be in our govt. ). I guess we'll probably always have something to talk about with this one. Is there anyone who knows of an independent lab to test this sort of stuff??
Daryle.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

Here again, it is opinion. I use to weld for a living as well. That does not make me an expert on welding helmets, nor does it make any experienced welder an expert on them unless he or she has done some real research. What it does mean is that we can weld and know something about joining metal. I am not saying that a welder doesn't know their job; they do if they are worth their "metal" ( pun intended ). I had the oportunity to use both and never felt like my eyes had been even stressed ( we didn't get the auto darkening helmets until about a year or so before layoffs and final closing, but they were used for 8-12hrs. a day ). I also, like I said, thought as you and Bil do on this UNTIL I thought it through after reading the article and remembering back a few years. The welders that I ran were in a foundry and were big units with gouging feature that we used as well. I know there are alot of false statements made in the process of selling things sometimes, but I do think that things are looked at a little more closely when safety is concerned ( from the powers that be in our govt. ). I guess we'll probably always have something to talk about with this one. Is there anyone who knows of an independent lab to test this sort of stuff??
Daryle.

I'm sticking with what I KNOW works. There is plenty of test data supplied by the manufacturers of these hoods that claim all is well. I've heard plenty from people who've used them with mixed revue. I have a good hood with a conventional lens that I'm 100% happy with. No need to explore new territory.

As far as saftey testing. I can recall when asbestos was the greatest thing since sliced bread. All positive and NO negative issues with it. Now take a look at it. Even the best make mistakes.

Until ALL the issues are resolved, I'm standing pat with my old technology on this one.

 

[AlanB]

FWJ,
I normally agree 100% with what you post, but on this one I feel differently.

I would suggest you use one a bit, and I think you may like it.

I will also throw into this discussion something that maybe nobody but me will want to admit too, but probably everyone can tell you they have seen someone else do it.

For a while, I was doing a fair amount of decorative steel work, fences, gates, doors etc..... Many, many, many (did I say a bunch) of tacks, spots etc to get things positioned.

At some point you find yourself holding the piece in position and squinting or turning your head and making that little spot without dropping your conventional hood. Now I know nobody here would do that, but I am willing to bet most people have seen it done....

Anyway, that was one of the greatest benefits to me, is that I can accurately place my workpieces, and I am always protected.

And in the FWIW between my father and I, we have owned, and still own, numerous models of these helmets from the $500 versions, to the HF $50, currently at my house I think there is a Jackson EQC, one of the old reflective helmets with shade 10 in the middle, couple of visitor helmets, my big shield hard hat helmet (when hard hat is required) and a HF cheapy.

The HF is on top of the welder right now, and is normally the one I grab. Dad uses his HF one more then his expensive ones as well.

 

[firemanpat2910]

alan, Ive seen it done, and Ill admit Ive done it alot myself. When you want to tack something in just the right spot an AD is great. even if it takes 1/25000 of a second longer its better than my eyelids.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

FWJ,
I normally agree 100% with what you post, but on this one I feel differently.

I would suggest you use one a bit, and I think you may like it.

I will also throw into this discussion something that maybe nobody but me will want to admit too, but probably everyone can tell you they have seen someone else do it.

For a while, I was doing a fair amount of decorative steel work, fences, gates, doors etc..... Many, many, many (did I say a bunch) of tacks, spots etc to get things positioned.

At some point you find yourself holding the piece in position and squinting or turning your head and making that little spot without dropping your conventional hood. Now I know nobody here would do that, but I am willing to bet most people have seen it done....

Anyway, that was one of the greatest benefits to me, is that I can accurately place my workpieces, and I am always protected.

And in the FWIW between my father and I, we have owned, and still own, numerous models of these helmets from the $500 versions, to the HF $50, currently at my house I think there is a Jackson EQC, one of the old reflective helmets with shade 10 in the middle, couple of visitor helmets, my big shield hard hat helmet (when hard hat is required) and a HF cheapy.

The HF is on top of the welder right now, and is normally the one I grab. Dad uses his HF one more then his expensive ones as well.

I DID try one. I DIDN'T like it. Eyes felt like I didn't use a hood after 3 hours of tacking together 4 gates I made.

 

[Trahere]

Don't and I say don't buy any cheap tools! Sixth post just
practicing !

Don't know much about tools,
Don't know much about anything!

 

[Dargo]

Don't and I say don't buy any cheap tools! Sixth post just
practicing !

Don't know much about tools,
Don't know much about anything!

I say only buy cheap tools. Yeah, that's it. Just review all my previous posts, you'll see that is my position. I'm just practicing too. How's my poker face?

 

[Farmwithjunk]

How's my poker face?

Don't quit your day job just yet.

 

[DaryleD]

I'm sticking with what I KNOW works. There is plenty of test data supplied by the manufacturers of these hoods that claim all is well. I've heard plenty from people who've used them with mixed revue. I have a good hood with a conventional lens that I'm 100% happy with. No need to explore new territory.

As far as saftey testing. I can recall when asbestos was the greatest thing since sliced bread. All positive and NO negative issues with it. Now take a look at it. Even the best make mistakes.

Until ALL the issues are resolved, I'm standing pat with my old technology on this one.

Myself, I trust them but I don't blame you a bit. They are your eyes and no-one elses. I wouldn't use one either if I didn't feel comfortable.

 

[slowrev]

I just weld by braille, My dog wears the hood.
Ben

 

[SkyPup]

I just weld by braille, My dog wears the hood.
Ben

LOL, poor dog!