"Cheapest" with air conditioning

mikeslavis · Aug 6, 2001

\"Cheapest\" with air conditioning

Hi all, I will be posting this on the other tractor boards as well, as I am just getting my feet wet here and looking for some newbie info. Does anyone know the "Cheapest" or "Lowest" tractor (4x4) that New Holland makes which can be equipped with Air Conditioning and Heat for full-season use? I am going to "Empire Farm Days" on Wednesday so I may find out more there, but I wanted to have some information "in hand" already before I go. Thanks! mike@slavis.com

ERNIEB · Aug 7, 2001

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Mike, Straight from the factory? I would guess the TL70.
The TND's can be had with a cab, I'm not sure if you can add the heat and AC.

Ernie

Phred · Aug 7, 2001

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Mike,

I think a TN55D would be the smallest unit with cab.
Cab has both air and heat standard.
http://www.newholland.com/na/Products/tncab.html

I have been looking at a TN75D. Test drove it at a local dealer. Larger machine than the 55 and quite expensive (asking $30K), but very nice...particluarly on those Arkansas afternoons when both the temperature and humidity are ~100./w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

Fred

mikeslavis · Aug 7, 2001

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Phred, Thanks for the info. I don't know why I never happened upon that link directly from the New Holland site, but it says right there that the TND series cabs have heat/air conditioning/wipers standard. For anyone else following this, here are the links to the TN55 and TN75:
http://www.newholland.com/na/Products/tn55_specs.html
http://www.newholland.com/na/Products/tn75_specs.html

mike@slavis.com

mikeslavis · Aug 7, 2001

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ErnieB, Thanks for the info. I checked and the TNDs come with cab with air conditioning/heater, as well as the TLs. I think the TLs look like a more expensive tractor, though. I'm still trying to figure out where to go for pricing information.

jinman · Aug 7, 2001

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Mike, I saw a TC45D at my NH dealer this weekend that had a full cab on it. I didn't specifically check, but I can't imagine it not being air conditioned in this Texas heat. I'd guess from that, that the TC40 and Also the TC35 could be equiped with a cab since they are the same size and form-factor. Can I ask why you don't just call up a dealer and ask them? That seems to be the obvious answer, but ???

JimI

mikeslavis · Aug 7, 2001

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JimI, Thanks for the reply. My New Holland dealer here is also the local Bobcat dealer, and while I haven't tried to contact them about New Holland yet, I am still waiting for a reply to the voicemail I left with questions about the Bobcats.

Also, I posted this question to the Kubota, New Holland and John Deere lists to quickly find out about each without having to try and reach several dealers.

Also, sometimes I find that real users will give different information than dealers will and can point things out that I wouldn't have thought of. So I wanted to see where the discussion went.

Lastly, I am planning on heading to Empire Farm Days tomorrow, where there will be reps from all the major Tractor companies on hand to answer questions, etc... and I wanted to have at least a good idea of what I'd be looking for before I went.

Thanks again,
mike@slavis.com

DVerbarg · Aug 7, 2001

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JimI, I saw a TC45D at a dealer with a full cab. It had a heater but no A/C. It was ordered for a local school and they planned on removing the doors during the summer. Asked the dealer about A/C and he thought it was only available, possibly, from a third party. This dealer moves a few TC units but is primarily focused on large Ag units.

DaveV

jinman · Aug 7, 2001

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Mike, I just gave my dealer a call (got a busy signal), but you can call him if you like. Go back to the top of this forum and look under my post titled "Best Place to Buy." You can see a photo of some tractors and on the far left is the TC45D with a canopy just visible. If you call the number shown, ask for Steve McMaster or Rick McMaster. One of them should be able to tell you about AC on NHs. I'll also keep checking, since it's a local call for me.

JimI

jinman · Aug 7, 2001

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Okay, I got through to my dealer, finally. The smallest "factory" installation is on a TN55. The TC45 cab and air conditioner I saw are third-party addons. I guess the mystery is solved.

JimI

mikeslavis · Aug 7, 2001

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JimI, Thanks for looking into this. From what I've gathered so far, the "TC" series seems to be more popular than the "TN" series, probably because of compactness and price, although I guess none of the "TC" series come from the factory with cabs and/or A/C (a downer). I'll definitely be checking out the TN55s at the show tomorrow, and also comparing them with the Kubota L3710 and JD 5220s (These are the results from my posts on the Kubota/JD boards for their cheapest models with A/C cabs).

Again, thanks for looking.

mike@slavis.com

jinman · Aug 7, 2001

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Dave, my dealer said he could equip a TC with air conditioning down to a TC35 as I had thought, but he also said the canopy (third-party) was not nearly as nice as the NH one and that the AC was another addon after the canopy was installed. In our 100+ heat here in Texas, I'm not surprised to see this be true. I just don't like a cab myself. I feel too closed in and truthfully, it wouldn't last a week before I'd wipe it out on a tree limb. I've already whacked a couple of trees pretty good with my ROPS./w3tcompact/icons/blush.gif

JimI

Bird · Aug 7, 2001

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I'd love to have an air-conditioned cab, but like one neighbor who has 3 of them told me, "If the air-conditioning goes out, you're out of service until it's fixed. Opening or removing the doors isn't enough; you can't stay in there with the sun shining through front and rear glass in this part of the country". I do know one guy with an old International on which the air-conditioning quit and he didn't want to get it fixed, so he removed the doors, then knocked out all the other glass all the way around./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Bird

DVerbarg · Aug 7, 2001

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Bird,

<font color=blue>removed the doors, then knocked out all the other glass all the way around</font color=blue>

That's one expensive way to get a canopy.

DaveV

jinman · Aug 7, 2001

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<font color=blue>he didn't want to get it fixed, so he removed the doors, then knocked out all the other glass all the way around.</font color=blue>

Hey, I think I know this guy. Didn't he drive a convertible that he couldn't get the top to come up on? ...and didn't he have an old Chevy pickup sitting up on ramps in his front yard? Yep, I think he's the same guy who had to borrow my battery to start his backhoe to dig my septic system. I'm sure it must have been the same fellow./w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

JimI

DVerbarg · Aug 7, 2001

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JimI, I would like a cab, but like you, would not last long. Too many trees. I would want the cab more for winter use. My wish list includes a softside cab for winter use. Don't have to worry about tree limbs when clearing the driveway and the winds here in northern Illinois (about 60 miles SW of Chicago) can chill you to the bone pretty quickly.

DaveV

Bird · Aug 7, 2001

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JimI, wouldn't be surprised if it's the same guy./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif This particular fellow does some hay work and also has a nearly new Kubota M6800. I think he drives it and makes his helper drive the old International./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif Last summer when it was new, the Kubota air-conditioner quit cooling on a Sunday, so instead of going back to the dealer, he took it to a local mechanic who's a friend of mine. The mechanic put his gauges on it and wow! 400# head pressure. So he hosed out the grass seeds, clippings, dust, and other debris from the radiator and, lo and behold, head pressure dropped and the air-conditioner worked great again./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif A real sharp fellow when it comes to maintenance./w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Bird

Bird · Aug 7, 2001

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Yeah, but it's a 4-poster instead of two./w3tcompact/icons/laugh.gif

Bird

mikeslavis · Aug 8, 2001

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DaveV, Good point. I'll have to check today at the show if the doors/windows on the TN-series tractor cabs are removable at all to allow use even when the A/C goes out (although, if this happened to ME, I WOULD get the A/C fixed ASAP!)

mike@slavis.com

jinman · Aug 8, 2001

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Dave, I believe NH is supposed to have a softside cab. It is shown in the pricelist for the state of MN that has been referenced many times in threads under this topic. It shows to be "TBD" on source and price. I figure it's like the quick-attach bucket. I keep hearing that it's coming, but yesterday when I asked my dealer, he said he didn't have one yet. /w3tcompact/icons/frown.gif

JimI