Check it out

jfakerj · Jan 21, 2001

Check it out. I changed my profile. It now reads - JD 4300 hst 4x4, loader, b/h. It came after 2:00 this afternoon and I used it until dark, well maybe a little after dark. I'd still be on it except I got cold and wet. Sure wish my wife had let me buy a roof for it. It was raining. It was still a good day. Cleaned out about 1' of horse dung, straw and saw dust off the ground in a shed and put some fresh chips down. It fits just perfect now with about 4" clearence over head. Also move part of a huge chip pile. The tractor ran great. The only problem was the forward peddle sticks sometimes and killed the tractor several times when I let off a little to get more power and the peddle was stuck. I'll have to check that out to see what's causing it to stick.

Jerry

TWINKLE_TOES · Jan 21, 2001

Jerry/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

I bet you don't watch the Super Bowl./w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif Are you going to work tomorrow? I wouldn't.
Congratulations.

kerr · Jan 21, 2001

Feels like nothing else dont it?congrats for sure!

PaulInMi · Jan 22, 2001

Jerry-

Congrats/w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif!!

Don't forget to post some pictures.

Paul

jfakerj · Jan 22, 2001

I'd post a picture but my scanner won't work. There's a lot of things in my house that don't work right. I think I may have had an electic spike.
Yah, I think I better stay home from work.
Can anyone tell me what position the rock shaft should be in when not using the 3 ph. I've got a b/h on but it's frame mounted. I notice my control is all the way up. I don't know if this is the way it came or if my son hit it when he was driving it. When he was out of sight and the tractor made some real grinding noises. Don't know what he did. He said he hit one of the handles. It sounds fine now.

Jerry

Thomas · Jan 22, 2001

Jerry,
Congratulation. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif
You might have been cold and wet but I bet you were /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gifing warm inside.

Stay safe and enjoy your JD.

Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

RobS · Jan 22, 2001

Congratulations Jerry! I was at my dealer Saturday and saw the same machine on his lot, complete with the backhoe. Very impressive looking piece of equipment. I even got my wife to sit on it. Judging my the smile on her face a future upgrade shouldn't be too hard to sell /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

I thought I detected a bit of congestion in your post. You better stay home and get well!

Rob

DDT · Jan 22, 2001

Jerry,
Congradulation's! I'm more than pleased with mine.

dmccarty · Jan 22, 2001

Congrats on joining the JD Green Club! Maybe we can take over from the Orange Gang!

As always, check the manual about the rock shaft. If I remember right your backhoe was not JD? On my tractor I put the rock shaft fully down when the backhoe is mounted. The only rock shaft position that I remember being "bad" was fully UP. Moving the lever all the way to the UP position and left there for over 10 seconds or so was a no no. On the JD48 you have to move to this full UP position to get the backhoe mounted but once things have locked in place the rock shafts are not doing anything so I just lower them.

Hope this helps...
Dan McCarty

jfakerj · Jan 22, 2001

Well, I stayed home today and did a lot of work with the tractor. I moved chips that had been dumped in the field by a guy using the field for his horses. I made one huge pile (about 20'x40' and about 10' feet high). The worst part was, I had to move the chips about 30 yards to a location that is some what out of the way. That took about 4 hrs of steady pushing chips. With the bucket full I could push another 1-2 buckets full in front . The tractor performed well. It did come off rpms 3 time for no reason. It just kind of almost died and then it would come back just as fast. Don't know what that could be. The forward peddle is still sticking and I killed the engine several times because of it. I also tried to clear and straighten the small road that goes uphill into the woods. It worked ok but kept hitting water and making a mess. I think that project will have to waite until the ground has dried out some.
I have a 47 b/h and I haven't even taken out the pins yet. I put the rock shaft all the way forward today and the tractor ran the same. Got to thinking, with the b/h hooked up, there's no hydro pressure to the rock shaft since the b/h uses the power beyond.
I thought about taking the b/h off when I moved all those chips but found that with it on, the tractor seems to be all one machine very well balanced.
All said, it was a pretty good day.

Jerry Edited by jfakerj on 01/22/01 10:21 PM (server time).

Thomas · Jan 23, 2001

Jerry,
Maybe one more day of staying home w/the tractor fever you would feel better. /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

You got to admit its a different world now w/ your new tractor,for the projects are so much easier also fun.

Take care and stay safe.

Thomas..NH /w3tcompact/icons/wink.gif

Bird · Jan 23, 2001

come off rpms 3 time for no reason. It just kind of almost died and then it would come back just as fast

I'm curious. Were you accustomed to using an HST transmission before you got this tractor? When it lost rpm, did you have the pedal down pretty far? And when they came back up, had you let off the pedal a bit? In other words, I'm wondering whether you know that the pedal doesn't work like an accelerator; it works more like a gear change. When you need to push harder, I think there's a natural inclination to push farther down on the pedal, but that can only give you more speed, not more power. In fact, it gives you less power and will sometimes bog down the engine.

Bird

dmccarty · Jan 23, 2001

jfakerj,

I leave my JD48 on the tractor most of the time. Its just so danged usefull doing things. Its pretty easy to take on and off. I think the key to the process, as the manual states, is having a flat and firm surface to place the backhoe. You might have to adjust the backhoe plates to get hoe back on the tractor. I had to adjust things a time or two. I finally got it just right, or so I thought, and the dealer changed my setup when he had it in to fix the FEL setup. He thought he was doing good but I still had to adjust the plates. I hope to take the backhoe off the tractor in the next month or so and it will be interesting to see if I have to adjust the plates again. Hopefully I got 'em JUST right!

I think the rock shaft still has hydraulic pressure. I don't think the Power Beyond Kit effects the rock shaft. If it did you would not be able to get the BH off the tractor. I remove the tractor-backhoe hydraulic connections after mounting/dismounting the BH. At least that is the way I remember it!

Just don't forget to turn off your engine and bleed the pressure from the hydraulic lines before connecting/disconnnect the backhoe.

I'm glad Bird mentioned the HST pedal operation. I remember someone having the same problems a while back and it sure sounded like the same issue. But I'm not an HST driver so I don't really know for sure.

Later...
Dan McCarty

jfakerj · Jan 23, 2001

No, this is not a problem of not knowing how to use the hst pedal. The rpms were about 2200 with very little load on the engine and all of a sudden the engine almost dies and then as fast as it almost died it picks back up. Just like lack of fuel for a split second or if it were a gas engine-lack of spark for a slit second. It happened all 3 time when the tractor was leaning to one side or front to backor visa versa.
My 47 b/h uses the power beyond. You unhook the rock shaft after the b/h is in position and hook in the b/h where the rock shaft was - under the bh seat, along with a return hose. That's why you have to take the pressure off the rock shaft because it's being unhooked. At least that's how mine works. So on mine there shouldn't be any pressure to the rock shaft after the bh is hooked up.

Jerry

jfakerj · Jan 23, 2001

In this forum I said my hst forward pedal was sticking. When my pedal sticks it's when the engine starts to lug and I'm releasing pressure on the pedal with my foot to allow the trans. to shift or slide or what ever it does into a lower gear for more power (proof I'm using it right). When the pedal sticks and does not come back up the way it should it lugs and kills the engine. If I'm fast enough with my foot, when I see this happening I can hit the reverse pedal and this forces the forward pedal up, the rpms come back up and I can resume what ever I was doing in a lower gear.

Jerry

Bird · Jan 23, 2001

Jerry, I don't know what could be causing the pedal to stick; linkage too tight or lack of lubrication? At any rate, I'd have to talk to the dealer and get that corrected right away.

Bird

jfakerj · Jan 24, 2001

Bird
As I posted when I was looking at this tractor, it's used(about320 hrs now). So I guess I'll get under there and take a look myself. I looked a little today and noticed a bolt is loose on the foward pedal allowing quite a bit of play. Don't know if this could be the problem or not. I'll take care of the bolt tomorrow. I already put some lithium grease around the pivot points. I've been pretty buisy cleaning the thing up. I don't think the previous owner believed in cleaning anything. He did believe in grease though. I pressure washed most of the grease out and off of the the fel and bh and regreased the fel today. Will regrease the bh tomarrow if I have time. The build up of old grease was unbelievable. Every time I'd get on the tractor I'd get grease all over myself. Well, on to cleaning the engine compartment next. Then I'll have everything clean and can dirty it again myself.

Jerry

john_bud · Jan 25, 2001

Jerry,

It sounds like you are sure having fun with your new toy---er---tool. /w3tcompact/icons/smile.gif

On the engine dropping power, were you leaning forward or far to one side when it happened? There may be a safety switch in the seat that is trying to keep you from being injured. That happens to me with my lawn mowers. It may not be it, but it would be a simple fix. You can probably find more information about it under "Operator Presence System" or some such in your owners manual. Or a quick call to the dealer.

John Bud

jfakerj · Jan 25, 2001

John
As a matter of fact the tractor was leaning forward and to the side each time this happened. You could very well be right. The switch under the seat may have had just enough pressure released from it for that split second that it made the tractor sort of hiccup. It only happened on very rough ground. I'll check the switch to make sure it is contacting like it should.
Thanks

Jerry

Branch · Jan 26, 2001

Jerry,
I posted this once before, but it might be worth repeating that my JD mechanic warned me to turn off the engine while pressure washing and keep water out of the air intake. He said that due to the high compression of these engines even a minute amount of water getting into the cylinders can bend rods. Good Luck

Branch