Chinese Chipper Evaluation

Cherokee140 · Jun 20, 2014

Are you sure your chevy, jeep and gmc all came from this country? Hate to tell you but I highly doubt it....it might be screwed together here, but not "made" here. One thing I do know is the tires you are rolling on likely did not come from this country so you better pull those suckers off right now.

And tell me why do you hate the American dock workers that unloaded the chipper, the RR that shipped it from the port, the trucking company and the truck drivers. Even the guys that drove the tug boat to dock the freighter.

Point is the same jobs are not going to stay there....they will move around. Less people making it means more people have to transport it, supply the fuel, build the train cars, build the tracks, maintain the tracks and roads. Like I said big picture.

1026mrg said:
You are absolutely correct that a lot of the electronics industry has left the US.

As far as my car.... GMC, Chevy, Jeep.

Whenever possible, and there are lots of possibilities, I would rather buy US and keep the jobs here.
But hey, that's just me. People complain about stagnating wages & job losses and then contribute to the problem with
offshore purchases from countries that don't have the regulations or rule of law that we enjoy here.

So I am already "down that road" and unapologetic.

Cherokee140 · Jun 20, 2014

newbury said:
Good review, keep us posted. Hopefully the troll will go away.

Naa.....I am tossing bait like crazy

its fun.

Keep us going on how the chipper is doing. I have been reading quite a bit on them and looking heavy at them. I will likely buy next spring.

I really like the woodchippers Canada models and they are about the same price....but darn that buy American thing....can't get that as well :laughing:

1026mrg · Jun 20, 2014

Cherokee140 said:
Are you sure your chevy, jeep and gmc all came from this country? Hate to tell you but I highly doubt it....it might be screwed together here, but not "made" here. One thing I do know is the tires you are rolling on likely did not come from this country so you better pull those suckers off right now.

And tell me why do you hate the American dock workers that unloaded the chipper, the RR that shipped it from the port, the trucking company and the truck drivers. Even the guys that drove the tug boat to dock the freighter.

Point is the same jobs are not going to stay there....they will move around. Less people making it means more people have to transport it, supply the fuel, build the train cars, build the tracks, maintain the tracks and roads. Like I said big picture.

I don't "hate the American dock workers....etc." In fact I have a deep respect for hard working Americans. That is why I try to buy American whenever possible. Also, fewer people making does not always translate into more people transporting. Once it hits these shores it is pretty much a wash.
If you want to get into a "big picture" debate, most of the blue ocean freighters that bring stuff here are foreign flagged vessels with foreign seaman that operate in a manner that is more consistent with Third World than First World.

Point is, and fact is, that imports have placed tremendous downward pressure on US wages. As a country we have traded stagnant middle-class wages for
less expensive imported goods. Not always a good trade.... You cannot build an economy on service wages and the growth of government.

The other point is that the competitive arena is not the same for all imported goods. Germany, Italy, Sweden, most Western European countries, have the same sorts of regulations that we do concerning environmental, safety, workplace OSHA, social (government mandated) expenses like unemployment comp, workers comp, etc. These all add significant costs to doing business. Not saying that they are all bad, just that they add cost. Low input factor (read wages) countries like China, Vietnam, etc. do not impose these costs on their businesses. To think that we as a society can mandate these sorts of programs, and then compete on a cost basis, with countries that have none of these is madness.

My only point is that continuing to purchase manufactured goods from offshore countries who have none of the legally mandated protections and costs that we have here is the path to poverty. I need no lectures on the "Big Picture". Look at the rate of wage growth/stagnation vs the balance of trade deficit. Facts are stubborn things.

End of rant....