Comparing 5325 mfwd to TYM/Montana/Mahindra

[ddivinia]

I had the same debates. The extra money seems worth it for the JD. I have a 5525 cab 4wd and love it. I have the 12 speed trans and sometimes think it would be nice to have the 24, but very rarely. The 5425 is physically bigger, you migth want to consider it from the weight and footprint perspective.

D.

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Well, I thought a Pro Union buyer would prefer a nice Deere...

Now, there can easily be $5000 advantage in a nice cab model over a discount one. Things like operator isolation to keep from being rattled to death, climate control, doors that hold up to abuse... I think that it would be really inportant to really try out a model before deciding that the cheaper one was 'just the same'

Of course, the Deere will reflect their industry leading R&D, as well./

But more importantly, it sounds to me that you have a quoted price on the others and a configurator price on the Deere. I think that at this point you need to get real numbers from dealers. It is pretty easy to overlook something that could add (or save) thousands on a machine like this. And there are other factors that could affect the discount.

You might be well served to get a quote from HD Equipment in London, Ohio. At least to guage how a local dealer stacks up to the price. But don't gnaw your foot off to save a little, and lose out on the extra service that a good selling dealer can offer. While you never have trouble getting a reasonable level of service from a dealer no matter where you bought; you also can;t expect the kind of miracles that good selling dealers can pull off when things really can get in a bind

 

[rockyridgefarm]

Hey, Turkflyer thanks for hangin' out with us. nice to have your perspective. Even if it is from Ar - um- Arkan - um. Do you folks really have pig for a football mascot?!!! /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[Turkflyer]

Yes, and it tastes GREAT barbequed! My family is actually from some Indian state just west of here.....the "Laters"...or maybe the "Sooners"? Dad is from Oohlagah, and I'll be in Tulsa this weekend on some other trivial persuits. I "Feel the need for speed", so will be in Hallett. Have a great one!

 

[Maka]

Hello Turkflyer. I would just like to point out a slight error in your post. JB Hunt Trucking has nothing to do with Montana. JB Hunt Trucking is a trucking company that I believe is publically traded and the only thing they have to do with tractors is tractor trailers.

Mr. Hunt is the founder.

Montana tractors is Montana tractors and one of the primary owners is JB Hunt. He in fact has started something like 36 companies over the years I believe is what he told me. I don't recall how many but he is a sharp business man who really knows how to make a company successful and grow.

I just want to point this out so that people realize that Hunt Trucking is not part of Montana. I may be wrong but I don't think so.

Thanks,
Maka

 

[Turkflyer]

I agree. Mr. Hunt is quite a man and knows business. I have just moved here from overseas (Asia) where I worked in this business and know the competitors well. I believe Mr. Hunt's group is the importer of the basic tractor. If I remember correctly, the design and manufacturing all all in S. Korea, not Arkansas. It is quite a job and takes quite an organization to set up a sales and distribution system for tractors. Support and parts are also a big job. Long term committment is yet another. The Montana is one of the better imports from Asia. John Deere also has many companies, but most are synergistic with their core competency in Agriculture. I wish Mr. Hunt all the best and hope he's successful.

 

[cowboydoc]

You've met your match in knowledge Maka. Turkflyer knows what's going on and who's doing what. His knowledge on the board has been without bias and 100% factual.

As far as the 25 series the cab alone I think is worth the extra $5k. Go sit and ride in the new Deere cab and then go ride in the competitors. The Deere cab is like a cadillac and the others are like a Chevy. If you don't care about much more than ac and radio then you're fine. If you want the extras then go with the Deere.

You will find also that your pump capacities, pto to the ground hp, and longevity will be much better. You know where Deere will be in the next 10 years. It's hard to say with the other companies. The smaller companies get bought up and integrated very often in this business. If you're looking for short-term costs then think foreign tractors. If you're thinking a 20 year tractor investment then think Deere. The extra $5k will pay for itself in spades over the years.

If you want to compare a tractor to the ones you mentioned look at the 6003 series from Deere. They are more of an economy minded tractor like the others you are looking at. The 25 series is top of the line. The 6403 is an 85 PTO hp tractor that you will never run out of power on doing what you are doing. It will be alot cheaper than a comparable 5525 that is only 75 PTO hp.

 

[Maka]

Hi Cowboydoc. Not trying to match wits here. In fact I did not even question his tractor knowledge except the Hunt Trucking, Montana statement. Turkflyer seems to be very knowleagable and an overall asset to TBN.

I just wanted to correct that one point as it is important.

Thanks, Maka

 

[Maka]

Thanks Turkflyer. I hope I was not coming off in anyway other than intended. That intention was to make sure that Hunt Trucking was not seen as Montana.

Thanks Much,
Maka

 

[Turkflyer]

Hey, no problem. I didn't mean to get after you as well. You had a good point. After a decade of setting these businesses up, I'm getting close to understanding them. I usually relate this to the passion we have for tractors...we eat, sleep, and breathe tractors. I know....I'm not the "life of the party circuit".....probably boring to most. If you're going to buy a loaf of bread, buy it from a guy who loves to make bread, and wants to get up evey day at 3am to start the process. he has a passion. You'll get a much better product that way. Also, you usually get better pizza from a dedicated pizza parlor than a gas station, because the gas station has other things to distract it.

Being a tractor distributor (Like Mr. Hunt) is tough business, especially as you set up a new market. The parent company has no direct ties to you, and there may be questions on warranty payment and support. Also, if the tractor was designed for another market, it may have shortcomings in another market. Years ago, we thought we'd just send China some of our tractors designed for the U.S. Turns out they couldn't use them properly, or support them. It fell on it's knees. Then we figured out that each country needs (and will buy) a tractor that is designed for that country and it's unique needs. That's when I picked up and moved overseas, learned the language, lived with locals, and did my best to give them a tractor that THEY needed....not just one I had on the shelf. Customer Satisfaction is easy....1) Find out what they want, and 2) Give it to them. You can't go wrong. I'm passionate about my tractors. Sorry to bore you with all of this, and keep up the good questions. That is what makes this forum alive.