Concerns with Tilling / Groundwork HST Hydrostatic Transmission?

[davesl708]

I have no concerns. We plow, disc, rip, etc. Does the tractor's HST whine? Sure. But it whines whenever I push snow or do other forceful work too and I just keep going. SUDT-2 takes a lot of the whine out, BTW, but not all of it. Nature of the beast but I don't allow the whining to stop me from doing whatever I need to do. It's a tractor. I bought it to do work and work it does. Don't over think it, I guess.

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I agree. My BX thinks its a M1085.

 

[sodak]

This helps ease my mind - thank you!

I mention the tractor I am close to buying here http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-buying-pricing/350093-2007-kubota-b3030.html if any of you have comments or advice on whether it is a deal (2007 B3030HSD under 400 hours, with FEL and industrial tires for ~$13k). There is also a '05 L3400 with about 1200 hours and FEL for the same price.

Curious what would be good attachments for the kind of work I will do. When I do pull the trigger, I plan to buy a new 72" MMM for it (to mow around trees, closer to buildings, etc.). Dealer is pushing Land Pride as the brand of tiller - unsure on the width. Will also probably want to get a ripper and possibly add a remote at some point in the more distant future.

Do I load the tires with rim guard, or be concerned about mowing with loaded industrial tires?

 

[C4Ranch]

This helps ease my mind - thank you!

I mention the tractor I am close to buying here http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/kubota-buying-pricing/350093-2007-kubota-b3030.html if any of you have comments or advice on whether it is a deal (2007 B3030HSD under 400 hours, with FEL and industrial tires for ~$13k). There is also a '05 L3400 with about 1200 hours and FEL for the same price.

Curious what would be good attachments for the kind of work I will do. When I do pull the trigger, I plan to buy a new 72" MMM for it (to mow around trees, closer to buildings, etc.). Dealer is pushing Land Pride as the brand of tiller - unsure on the width. Will also probably want to get a ripper and possibly add a remote at some point in the more distant future.

Do I load the tires with rim guard, or be concerned about mowing with loaded industrial tires?

If you plan on doing any loader work, fill the tires. Here is my $0.02... The L has more all around, fluid capacities, etc.. Not sure the FEL capacities but likely more..

The contemplation I would have is maintenance. The B is right around its major service mark.. The L could have missed 2 with that many hours... If maintenance can be proven, I'd always opt bigger. YMMV

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Unless you "need" a bit heavier frame for whatever reason I'd go with the lesser hours Deluxe model B3030 vs the utility version of the L model. Near the same HP. I went from a B7800 (1700 lbs) 31 Hp to a L3240 3400 Lbs 32 Hp one time. The L3400 is not a L3240 (Deluxe L model). The Landpride 72" RFM would swing my B around at the bottom of the hill but it was like it wasn't there on the L3240 except........when near cresting the top of the hill the L would start slowing down but the B never did due to the extra weight with near equal HP. I got rid of the L pretty quick since I live on hill side and went to a B3200 which sits lower to the ground. Did more Bs over the years but never another L. Bigger isn't better, it's just bigger. On flat ground I'd like the L OK but not on hillside which is what I have.
I had a tiller and it worked great with all my HSTs even with the BX models except for the one geared tractor I owned, a B2320 which was a sweet little B but I hated the geared part especially with the tiller since it stopped every time I stopped the B2320 or slowed down if I slowed down on the B2320, wouldn't have done that with HST.

 

[sodak]

If you plan on doing any loader work, fill the tires. Here is my $0.02... The L has more all around, fluid capacities, etc.. Not sure the FEL capacities but likely more..

The contemplation I would have is maintenance. The B is right around its major service mark.. The L could have missed 2 with that many hours... If maintenance can be proven, I'd always opt bigger. YMMV

Both of them came from Auction, so no records. I'll check what the fluids and filters look like when I get to the dealer today. Sold with 350 hours, who knows if it was serviced at 300.

What all is entailed with major service? All new fluids and filters - oil, transmission, hydraulic?

 

[Fallon]

HST eats up 15% more HP & lacks the inate "cruise control" factor of a gear tractor. Otherwise I think its a safer & easier to use machine. HST is as reliable as a gear machine if you keep the fluid clean, its more simple than the power shift transmissions too.

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[C4Ranch]

Both of them came from Auction, so no records. I'll check what the fluids and filters look like when I get to the dealer today. Sold with 350 hours, who knows if it was serviced at 300.

What all is entailed with major service? All new fluids and filters - oil, transmission, hydraulic?

New hydraulic fluid, my B had a screen that had to be cleaned in the hydraulic area, 2 new hydraulic filters (hydraulic/hst), fuel filter, engine filter, engine oil, air filter, grease, grease, grease... Go with only SUDT2 IMO, best for hydros.

 

[jeff9366]

Would you have any concerns with tilling, ripping, or plowing an acre or two with a B3030HSD, assuming attachments were sized right (for example, everything attachments recommendations)?

You can pull a small frame 2-12" Moldboard Plow in sandy soil with a B3030HSD. You cannot pull a large frame 2-12" as the plow beam will collide with the rear of the tractor. You will be plowing in HST/MEDIUM with full throttle, which is fine. (2-12" NOT possible if you have Turf Tires.)

If you have clay, gravel or other 'tough' soil it would be prudent to stay with a 1-12" or 1-14" Moldboard Plow. (Turf Tires fine.)

HST/Gear is immaterial. Tractor weight, traction and space around the 3-Pt. are the three issues. If you plow, you pretty much need a Disc Harrow for secondary tillage:


You can pull a Disc Harrow with 18" diameter pans. You cannot pull a Disc Harrow with 20" diameter pans. (18" NOT possible if you have Turf Tires.)

HST/Gear is immaterial. Tractor weight, traction, and the need for 4mph-5mph speed to get good soil mixing are the three issues.


HST is the ideal transmission for PTO powered roto-tilling. (Turf Tires FINE.)
Few owning a roto-tiller would feel the need for a plow or Disc Harrow. Roto-tillers are superior for garden preparation.

You will probably want some form of tine-space-adjustable Three Point Hitch garden cultivator. Pictured is 'Wunderbar' from Woodward Crossing.


RE: RIPPING: What type/size of ripper? HST is the best transmission for ripping but you can only pull a small to moderate size ripping implement 2" to 3" deeper than you can go with a 1-12" or 2-12" plow, hardly any deeper than you can go with a 1-14" plow, which is 6"-8", turning sod/weeds under.


LINKS: http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/308251-disc-harrow-selection-18-45-a.html?highlight=

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/attachments/276736-ford-series-101-plow-2-a.html?highlight=


MIKE and TRAVIS at ETA earn their paychecks correctly matching implements to tractors.

 

[jeff9366]

You would get more useful replies if you focus on WHAT YOU WANT TO ACCOMPLISH.

You keep throwing out specific implements and asking for comments. Chances are you do not know what the optimum implement for a given task is.

It would be useful if you carefully described the soil you will be working: Topsoil type, Topsoil depth, Subsoil type, other info.

If you had a city in your profile, in addition to South Dakota, we could research your soil. A contributor may know of a bargain tractor for sale near your city. It happens.



The whine in a 'B' HST transmission can be decreased by specifying Kubota Super UDT2 hydraulic fluid at HST service time. Unfortunately, Kubota Super UDT2 is higher priced.

 

[jeff9366]

I plan to buy a new 72" MMM to mow around trees, closer to buildings, etc.

Do I load the tires with rim guard, or be concerned about mowing with loaded industrial tires?

You need REALLY flat land to mow, without scalping, with a 72" deck. Think golf fairways. Few MMMs are sold in 72" width.

MMM's are heavy and centrally mounted. Do not load the tires if you will be mowing with any size MMM.

Do not spend $250 loading worn tires in any case. Weight without sharp tire tread will not improve traction.