Cosmo Kramer

[Farmwithjunk]

There is no Constitutional Right to NOT be offended.

Those who get 'offended' need to toughen up. Life is not a bowl of cherries.

I could be wrong. (I was ONCE before) But it seems to me that the majority of folks who often "get offended" easily are LOOKING to be offended. It allows them to rationalize their own low self esteem. I'm a firm believer in that ol "sticks and stones" saying .

 

[RayH]

Are you saying that they have added words to the banned list since this thread has started?

Yes, Earlier in the thread I posted to make the point that the N word is only a word, no worse and no better than any racial slur but for some reason its treated way worse than others. A double standard.
My point was made by this board. The N word auotmatically got ******. After I posted I edited to see what other racial slurs got **** and none of them did. I used common slurs for Jews, whites and asians and they were fine to use. I didnt set out to make my point that way but the board brought it home better than I ever could have. Now the moderators have **** all those slurs but only after someone made the point that the N word is no different than any racial slur.
Im not singling out this board or its moderators for the double standard. Its throughout our society. That was my only point.

 

[AndyM]

I used common slurs for Jews, whites and asians...
Now the moderators have **** all those slurs but only after someone made the point that the N word is no different than any racial slur.

Why are you using racial slurs on a family friendly tractor board?

 

[Dusty]

Why are you using racial slurs on a family friendly tractor board?

He wasn't. He was only pointing out the fact that only one word was nixed. Now, more words are nixed that are considered racial slurs. It is admirable that the management took steps to correct this immediately. However, there are still words that are in common use that are not allowed to be used on these forums, and I have been advised can't be used on these forums even when they are used in the context of their true meaning. Words are only words on a page, it is when you put them into the context that they are used, is when they are either acceptable or unacceptable. We have a diverse group of people here, and what one word means in North America, might not have the same meaning in England, or Australia for that matter, and both are part of the United Kingdom. Both the plumbing and railroad industries have terms for various operations or parts that some might find objectionable when taken out of there context.
Dusty

 

[RayH]

Why are you using racial slurs on a family friendly tractor board?

Up until yesterday those words I used were fine with the management. My point was why are some slurs against some races considered acceptable while others are not.

 

[AndyM]

My point was why are some slurs against some races considered acceptable while others are not.

Acceptable where? At TBN, or in life in general?
Who determines they are acceptable, both here and in general?




I still maintain only one race was created... the human race.

 

[RayH]

Acceptable where? At TBN, or in life in general?
Who determines they are acceptable?

I still maintain only one race was created... the human race.

Apparently acceptable to both TBN and the public in general. The reason I say that is because until yesterday, TBN had no problem printing slurs about whites, asians or Jews but they blanked out the black slur. Watch TV or listen to the radio. Everyone feels compelled to say "the N word" but they wont say ******, while at the same time its fine to say racial slurs about other ethnic groups.
Society determines what is acceptable and what isnt. My problem is why are racial slurs about blacks not acceptable but racial slurs about other ethnic groups are?
My personal opinion is that they are only words, groups of letters, parts of sentences, nothing more, nothing less. Whats the difference in calling someone a ***** verses calling them an idiot or moron. I dont think any of them should be banned but if the establishment feels they should ban slurs, thats their right and its my right to leave if I feel compelled to do so.
BUT, if they feel they need to ban slurs, dont just ban a black slurs, ban slurs for all ethnic groups.

 

[AndyM]

Watch TV or listen to the radio. Everyone feels compelled to say "the N word" but they wont say ******, while at the same time its fine to say racial slurs about other ethnic groups. Society determines what is acceptable and what isnt. My problem is why are racial slurs about blacks not acceptable but racial slurs about other ethnic groups are?

Society doesn't determine what is acceptable on television; the television networks determine that. There are a lot of things that are on television that should not be, and they are teaching children things are acceptable that shouldn't be. That's why I, as a member of society, turn off the television when I don't agree with it, and try to stay away from websites that I find offensive.

One of the members here whom I sometimes disagree with happens to be Jewish. Should it be acceptable that I use certain words towards him at TBN, just because the words happen to get past the filters?

Whats the difference in calling someone a ***** verses calling them an idiot or moron.

There is no difference. We are all taught to be repectful of one another. For example, there are some members here at TBN that make some crazy claims and say some goofy things... I question their statements occasionally, and call them on the carpet, but I choose to do it without calling them a ***** or calling them an idiot or a moron (though sometimes I feel like they deserve it! They are many times I make a post, and then delete it after I've re-read it and felt it wasn't very nice)

BUT, if they feel they need to ban slurs, dont just ban a black slurs, ban slurs for all ethnic groups.

Agreed. This is a "family friendly website. We whould extend that example in other places throughout our lives also.

 

[Dusty]

Acceptable where? At TBN, or in life in general?
Who determines they are acceptable, both here and in general?




I still maintain only one race was created... the human race.

This is true, but sometimes I believe that there membership in the human race should be revoked, and at other times, I wonder if they really are human. I have seen so many weird things in my life, that it leaves me to wonder how we made it to this point. "If man evolved from apes, why are there still apes today?" Don't remember who wrote or said this, however, I believe that some have not evolved beyond being able to speak, and they are still stuck in the primate roll in society.
Dusty

 

[RayH]

Society doesn't determine what is acceptable on television; the television networks determine that.
One of the members here whom I sometimes disagree with happens to be Jewish. Should it be acceptable that I use certain words towards him at TBN, just because the words happen to get past the filters?

If enough representative members of society (the Nielsens) decided to turn the TV off of a particular show, dont you think that show would be cancelled? If enough members consider the show acceptable, then it stays on.

Obviously I cant answer for the whole board but Its acceptable to me that you use "certain words" towards him, I couldnt care less. I couldnt care less if you use "certain words" towards me. Ive been on this earth long enough and interacted with enough people in my life that any name calling towards myself or anyone else is pretty much meaningly to me. Thats not to say its right, thats only to say that my acceptance level is higher than some.