Coyotes killing livestock

[coobie]

I know there is a bunch of intelligent people that read this site so I thought I would ask a question. I have been having trouble with coyote's killing my Reg. Boer goats. Since July 4 I have lost 4 of them to the coyotes. (This is starting to get expensive to me about $200 each) They have even killed one of my neighbors Cutting horse colts which is big $$$$ (they came home in the middle of it). I feel that we have had a pack of just plain killers move in. I keep the goats in a High tinsel fence with Hot wires 6" apart. My neighbors and I have declared war on them but have only been able to kill 1 of them. This is the first time that we have had trouble with them in 2 years that I have lived here. Just a note these coyotes are not scared of horses or Jacka$$'s. My question is do any of you have a secret in killing them? Any thoughts on how to handle this? I have the attitude “ Kill them all and let God sort them out”. I have thought about going fishing for them by hanging treble hooks from trees with bait on them. What would you use for bait?

Post your problem on this website index they have a few folks down your way who might be able to help you get rid you your yote problem.coobie

 

[RSKY]

Farmers in Kentucky started having problems with coyotes about about ten years ago. Most now have at least one donkey in the fields with the cattle. Actually got to see one chasing a coyote one time, the little donkey was so deternimed to stomp him that he crashed into a fence. The coyote got away but barely. I have heard that llamas will protect a heard but the jackass is cheaper. Have also seen single Brahmas in with a heard of other types for the same reason. With goats I assume the donkey would be best.

 

[Tanberry]

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I can't say for sure one had anything to do with the other, but in my opinion, the fewer coyotes you have, the more wildlife you will have.

Eddie[/QUOTE]

I agree with Eddie's statment. The number of Coyotes in my area has went up over that last few years and I'm not seeing the turkey numbers that I use to . I caugt one on my game cam and then a few minutes later a nervous doe following it . I belive it took at least one fawn .

 

[Tim Stuart]

Guys, Thanks for all the great responses. Just a quick update, another one dead yesterday during 10 am and 5 pm in broad daylight. We had hay cut lying in the field so we had to leave the house to go bail hay. I found one dead in the pasture about 50 feet from the house with the guts eaten out and one severely wounded in the shallow end of the pond they had bitten her in the throat. I believe she dove in the pond to save her life. I left the dead goat laying just where they killed her for my night hunt bait. All I had to do is just site on my back porch and wait. After doctoring the goat I came in the house and ate supper for about 30-45 minutes around 8:30 pm, during supper they came in to the dead goat. When supper was over I opened the door and shine the light at the dead goat and she was not there. I shined the light around and about 150 feet from the house I see red eyes shining back at me. I shot between the eyes and got another one. I drug the goat back to the 50 foot spot and got a lariat rope and tied her to a cedar tree so they could not drag her off again. I waited again until 1 am and no more Coyotes showed back up so I went to bed. My wife got up at 3 am and looked at her and she still had not been touched, But at 5 am when she got back up there was 11 or 12 of them eating her. My wife came and got me from bed but they where gone when I got out there. Daylight came and I went out there and there was nothing left but the head and skeleton so I buried the goat and the dead coyote. I have always kept the goat locked up at night and during the day I have them in a pasture with 11 electrified wires (I counted them today) spaced 6 inches apart starting 6 inches off the ground. My wife spoke too one of my neighbors this morning and he said that he got up to 7 dead chickens this morning also.

 

[EddieWalker]

Tim,

Sounds like you have a problem worse then I've ever heard of. Too bad it's illegal to poison them. If a guy was allowed to bait and poison them, he'd be able to solve the problem fairly quickly. Just too bad it's illegal to do something like that. It would sure solve your problem.

Eddie

 

[RichM96067]

I have no experience here, but I remember heariing somewhere that mountain lion urine will keep the coyotes away.

 

[1bush2hog]

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[Soundguy]

I read this whole thread wondering if anyone was going to mention dogs.

Coyotes get blamed for a lot of dog mischief.

If it's on my land taking my livestock.. I'd 'call' whatever it was a coyote pull the trigger and be done with it.. bury and go on..

Soundguy

 

[schmism]

In my uncle has hunted them in the winter for the past 5 or so years. Each year he nets between 5-10.

He was shooting with a 22-250 but at the ~250yds he was shooting at, it didnt have enough takedown power. He wanted to be able to drop them on the spot.
He steped up to a 30-06 and has been happy with it.

 

[Toiyabe]

This isn't typical Coyote behavior. But they are very smart animals and are quite capable of learning new behaviors.

There's a (locally) famous pack down near Death Valley that stakes out rest stops and kills pet dogs. A tourist will stop at the rest stop and let their dog out to go potty. One of the coyotes will hide nearby, and run off causing the dog to chase. The rest of the pack will be waiting to ambush the dog when it's far enough from its owner.

When you have a large aggressive pack, gaurdian animals probably won't work. They'd make a nice meal of a llama and with an advantage in numbers are capable of killing large dogs. Usually coyotes won't take the risk, but if they have lost their fear of humans all bets are off.

You need to kill as many of that pack as possible and strike terror into the hearts of the survivors. The best way is with a rifle as the association with human activity is strongest. You want to train them that humans equals death. Traps and poison are also good, but the association with humans is less strong. Better fencing just makes their job harder, but doesn't teach them a lesson.

Once you break this pack of their habit, you need to maintain the lesson by continuing to persecute them. At that point guardian animals should be effective again.