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   / Craigslist Scam I can't figure out #31  
Here is where the Cregislist Scams get real scary .

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2 more bodies may be related to Craigslist plot

Shallow graves found in Noble, Summit counties

November 26, 2011

By Evan Bevins (ebevins@mariettatimes.com) , The Marietta Times
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For the second time this month, investigators in Noble County have found a man's body in a shallow grave in Stock Township.
Hours before that discovery was announced Friday, authorities in Summit County located a body in a shallow grave near an Akron mall. That death is believed to be linked to a murder-and-robbery scheme involving a phony Craigslist ad for a job in Noble County, where earlier this month one man was shot and wounded by two suspects and another body was found buried in a shallow grave in Stock Township.
A statement from the Noble County Sheriff's Office did not directly link the body of an unidentified white male found Friday morning with the ongoing investigation. However, FBI special agent Vicki Anderson, with the bureau's Cleveland office, acknowledged a connection seems likely.
"Do we think it could be? Sure we do. This is highly coincidental," she said. "But we can't definitively say."
Sheriff Steve Hannum could not be reached for comment, but the statement said his office would not be releasing any more information at this time. A gag order was issued for the case after an attorney for one of the suspects, a 16-year-old student at Stow-Munroe Falls High School in the Akron area, requested it.
The boy has been charged with attempted murder. His alleged accomplice, 52-year-old Richard Beasley of Akron, has not been charged but is in jail on unrelated charges.
The sheriff's statement does not provide specific details on when, where or how the latest body was located, only that it was found before noon Friday in Stock Township. No identification was found with the body, which was taken to the Licking County Coroner's Office for an autopsy. No one at that office could be reached for comment early Friday evening.
Stock Township resident Duane Dimmerling, 45, said he saw a helicopter and law enforcement vehicles Friday as he was working with his cattle in the area of Don Warner Road, where the body of 51-year-old Norfolk, Va., resident David Pauley was found in a shallow grave nearly two weeks ago.
"I travel that road quite often," Dimmerling said. "And probably the last eight years, I've met not five vehicles traveling on that road.
"Somebody scouted the area pretty well," Dimmerling said, adding that he wondered what led the suspects to this area in the first place.
Anderson said the body found in Akron is scheduled for an autopsy in Summit County at 8 a.m. Saturday. She said she could not discuss how authorities located the body.
"We obtained some information, and we acted upon that information," she said.
Prior to the announcement about the body in Noble County, authorities were working on the supposition that the body found in Akron could be that of Massillon resident Timothy Kern. The 47-year-old has been missing for nearly two weeks, after he responded to the online ad, which his family said promised him $300 a week, a trailer and a truck.
Authorities first learned of the plot after a South Carolina man who responded to the ad emerged from the woods near Fulda after seven hours of hiding from the suspects. He reportedly met them at a Marietta restaurant before being taken to what they said was the jobsite. As they got out of the vehicle to walk, the man said he heard a gun being cocked and pushed it away. He was shot in the arm as he fled.
A woman who heard about that attack contacted the Noble County Sheriff's Office later that week to say her brother responded to a similar ad. Investigators returned to the area where the South Carolina man was shot, and eventually discovered Pauley's body.
The FBI has contacted people who responded to the ad but were not brought to the area, Anderson said. While there seems to be a good chance one of the bodies is Kern's, there isn't anyone right now who fits the bill for the other one.
"We haven't been notified of anybody else that responded to (the) ad that has not been seen," she said.
Dimmerling's mother, Darlene, a lifelong Stock Township resident, said she worries about her son working on his farm alone, even if the suspects are in custody.
"I told him ... you got to stop going up there by yourself," said Darlene Dimmerling, 65. "You wonder, was it just those two doing the killing?"
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Turns out 4 different guys responded to this add on 4 different occasions.
In the end 3 of them were shot to death and the other one was shot an wounded in the hand and escaped the killers.
That guy was one lucky fellow.
Noble county is about 25 miles from here.
 
   / Craigslist Scam I can't figure out #32  
They will NEVER pay cash.---------------------
You wire the money and a couple days later your bank debits your account for the bad check you cashed.

It is difficult for American authorities to arrest these people because they are usually in Russia, Nigeria or some other far away country that it is hard to extradite people from.

Also jurisdictions, translators, delays, all add up to thousands and thousands of dollars.
I once spotted a tractor scam, responded and had it all set up for authorities to step in.
Basically they booted me around from agency to agency and I ended up with phone busters who actually took the time to explain all the shortcomings of pursuing those scams.
Very frustrating.
Notice also that they are all under $5000. putting them in a minor category.

I am looking for an MG sports car presently and can spot dozens of scams.
All have similar characteristics.
Under $5000.etc and if U ask serious questions you don't even get reply's.

On a craig like site I found about 10 tractors all under $5000.,fairly recent, low hrs, great maintenance, all records, (e.g. 50-60 hp JD/NH, FEL, Air, 3-5 years old, all records etc etc. and mere 300 -400 hrs) Yeah! and the check is in the mail! LOL.
Unfortunately some will bite and his hard earned $$ will go Bye-Bye.
 
   / Craigslist Scam I can't figure out #33  
I'd say if a bank accepts a check and deposits cash in your account, it's on them at that point. That would be the logical thing to do, but hey, this is the US and when it comes to the banking industry, nothing is logical.
The only way they can do that is by holding the check without releasing the money until they know it clears... about 2 weeks.
 
   / Craigslist Scam I can't figure out #34  
There is no way that it takes a bank 2 weeks to figure out if the account a check was drawn on has money....
 
   / Craigslist Scam I can't figure out #35  
Some of the scams use pictures and copies of other ads on CL. I had an apartment for rent and got a bunch of calls asking about it and wondering why the price changed. It turned out someone had copied the ad, posted a lower price for the apartment and was asking for a deposit up front to hold it sight unseen. When that ad was taken down they then saw mine with the same wording, pictures etc, but a different price and phone number. It caused me no end of headaches... now I put something in the images with my number or the price to prevent copies.
 
   / Craigslist Scam I can't figure out #36  
There is no way that it takes a bank 2 weeks to figure out if the account a check was drawn on has money....

No, but it takes them about 2 weeks to discover if the check is forged or counterfeit and then to notify you.

Many times the scammer will duplicate a check from a company with large deposits and the computer will tell them that the account has enough to cover the check but can't tell if the check is counterfeit.
 
   / Craigslist Scam I can't figure out #37  
that really makes ya wonder.. don't it. ??? :( :(

and remember.. those people that fall for it.. they breed and vote too.. :( :( :( :(

soundguy
Alot of older people aren't computer/thief savy

Some of the scams use pictures and copies of other ads on CL. I had an apartment for rent and got a bunch of calls asking about it and wondering why the price changed. It turned out someone had copied the ad, posted a lower price for the apartment and was asking for a deposit up front to hold it sight unseen. When that ad was taken down they then saw mine with the same wording, pictures etc, but a different price and phone number. It caused me no end of headaches... now I put something in the images with my number or the price to prevent copies.

I'm looking for a UTV, if one is posted on craigslist, I copy the title and see how many states its listed in and flag it.
 
   / Craigslist Scam I can't figure out #38  
Alot of older people aren't computer/thief savy.

has nothing to do with computers or age really... sadly, once you remove those components of the argument you are pretty much left with:

Alot of people aren't savy.

which is what I said in my post ;)


soundguy
 
   / Craigslist Scam I can't figure out #39  
I am looking for an MG sports car presently and can spot dozens of scams.
All have similar characteristics.
Under $5000.etc and if U ask serious questions you don't even get reply's.

On a craig like site I found about 10 tractors all under $5000.,fairly recent, low hrs, great maintenance, all records, (e.g. 50-60 hp JD/NH, FEL, Air, 3-5 years old, all records etc etc. and mere 300 -400 hrs) Yeah! and the check is in the mail! LOL.
Unfortunately some will bite and his hard earned $$ will go Bye-Bye.

To bad you're not closer. I have a 1960 MGA that needs restoration that I'm looking to get rid of.
 
   / Craigslist Scam I can't figure out #40  
Appreciate all the good information on here. Some things I've heard of, but some things are new to me. I buy a few things on CL, but haven't sold anything. Cash is the only way to go. Thanks!!!

Eddie
 

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