Creeper Gear ?

[ttstraw]

Ok folks, my Dad and I can not figure this one out so I need some help. Looking through a Tractor Auction mag we noticed an add for Case (I believe) talking about their transmissions. They stated that theirs would do 60' per hour. My Dad and I were trying to figure out what you do at 60' per hour or when would you need a gear that slow! Ideas??

 

[JB4310]

That's crazy, it's a foot per minute or 2 "s in 10 seconds, I was gonna say maybe the space shuttle to the launch pad but that probably moves faster than that. You wouldn't even know it if you got off the machine with it in gear, it would be barely moving, you could go in the house for some coffee and when you came out it would only be a few feet away from where you left it!!!

 

[dirtworksequip]

Creeper gears that slow are usually for use with a trenching attachment.

Sincerely, Dirt

 

[ttstraw]

A trencher is was I was thinking but most of those that I know and have seen were dozers used to bury fiber optic cable and this was a wheeled tractor. It was a big joker too, one of those with duals in the front and back with center pivot in the 300-400hp range.

 

[kbotaman]

May have been used to pull a tiling machine, similiar to cable layer, but is used to lay field drainage tile.

 

[DonWorrell]

MY Dad use to talk about a F-20 Farmall. He said in the late winter when they were plowing to get ready to plant potatoes they would get the tractor wheels in the furrow and then get off and walk beside the tractor to keep warm. But I never heard of a tractor this slow.

Don

 

[Soundguy]

My idea is also a trnecher or tiller tranny. I've seen them for fords that have some amazing gear ratio's.. like 90:1.. etc..

soundguy

 

[Rara Avis]

Here are a few uses of a creeper gear...

Tobacco farmers need a creeper for The Kirpy harvester ground speeds

Vegetables Farmers
Vegetables are grown on six foot beds and are usually planted in three rows. This allows as much mechanical weeding as possible, minimizing expensive hand weeding. A combination of a sweep hoe (L-blades and A-blades), rotary brush hoe, and flame weeder are used depending on ground conditions and the stage of plant growth. Some hand weeding is always necessary and is done using a bed weeder. This piece of equipment is attached to the three point linkage of a tractor fitted with a creeper gear box (extremely slow). It is made up of a wide frame covering three beds of vegetables, and mounted on the frame are nine "stretchers." Nine people then lie on the stretchers that are suspended just above each single row of vegetables. This allows them to weed by hand within the row of vegetables from a position of relative comfort. This is much easier on the human form and is also surprisingly fast. Potatoes are grown in traditional ridges that are progressively built up during the early stages of plant growth which gives good weed control. Potato haulm is topped and burnt off with the flame weeder prior to harvesting in September. Carrots are harvested from August through until November using a top-lifting harvester. A top-lifter pulls the carrots out by the leaves, minimizing damage and leaving the soil behind. Once the first autumn frosts arrive, the carrot tops become weaker and the top-lifter is no longer effective. We then use a combination of the potato harvester and hand lifting to complete the harvest.

Vegetable Farmers also use a creeper from laying out the wrap....


Tractor composter
Brown Bear has introduced a revised model of its farm tractor composter. The PTOPA35C-10.5 unit is designed to be attached to the front of 100-160 hp farm tractors. The composter requires a front 3-point hitch, 1000 RPM PTO, and creeper transmission. It is available for ISO and counter ISO PTO shaft rotation. It is designed to compost biosolids, yard waste, manure and other organics.

Brown Bear Corp.
Corning, IA
Tel: 641-322-4220
Web: homepage


As mentioned tilling requires a creeper

Snow blowing will benefit from a creeper

Nursery operations will use creeper when treating seedlings

 

[diyDave]

Golf courses use 'em for certain types of aerators I think they call 'em Verti-drain units that aerate 16 " deep.

 

[ttstraw]

No creeper gear here...!!!

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[SPYDERLK]

Ok folks, my Dad and I can not figure this one out so I need some help. Looking through a Tractor Auction mag we noticed an add for Case (I believe) talking about their transmissions. They stated that theirs would do 60' per hour. My Dad and I were trying to figure out what you do at 60' per hour or when would you need a gear that slow! Ideas??

How about a missing zero? 600'/hr sounds more like it.
larry

 

[ttstraw]

Just looked again. Its a MF talking about their Dyna-VT transmission, here is the wording straight from the ad. Now there could be a mis-print in the ad itself.

"Creeper speeds as slow as 60 ft/hr standard."

I know it sounds odd thats why it caught our attention.

Tom

 

[GinNB]

60'/hr seems right. I just checked it out on their site.

Transmission

 

[john_bud]

FAE has a tiller type of implement that is used to crush rocks. Used by potato farmers and others for field reclaimation. Supposedly able to crush loaf of bread sized rocks down to 20" under the surface, it keeps all the mineral nutrients in the soil and doesn't create huge piles of rocks.

jb

 

[SPYDERLK]

Just looked again. Its a MF talking about their Dyna-VT transmission, here is the wording straight from the ad. Now there could be a mis-print in the ad itself.

"Creeper speeds as slow as 60 ft/hr standard."

I know it sounds odd thats why it caught our attention.

Tom

Sounds like a hydraulic drive with a low gear final range engaged as needed. --[0-31mph] -- HST can do this when its needed. I dont know of a tractor gear tranny that would provide for .01mph.
larry

 

[dmccarty]

My JD4700 is a gear tractor. There was an option for a creeper gear. It would be handy sometimes when I'm trying to pick up something with the 4n1 bucket or the pallet forks.

Later,
Dan

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Sounds like a hydraulic drive with a low gear final range engaged as needed. --[0-31mph] -- HST can do this when its needed. I dont know of a tractor gear tranny that would provide for .01mph.
larry

I believe that my Parsons trencher will go as slow as 8" per minute. All gear. Lucky for me I haven't had to go that slow very often. Only when digging through solid rock and is it hard on those carbide teeth.

 

[JayDavis]

I don't have anything that major, but our FiatAgri 90hp tractor has a creeper range. If you put the range in I (ranges I-IV) and use 1st, at idle it is significantly slower than comfortable walking pace.

I has used it when I had cleared fence rows of trees and had them cut into pieces, I'd aim the tractor parallel to the fence and get off and pick up limbs and throw them in the front bucket walking alongside the tractor or ahead of it. I could walk 20ft away grab an arm full, walk back to the tractor (it had only gone 5ft) pile it in the loader and get more. It moved so slow getting in and out wasn't difficult at all.

 

[JerryG]

The Fords Chris was talking about had some very low gears with the optional transmissions. I wouldn't be surprised if they could be had that slow.
My lowest creeper gear when used at max. RPM is rated at about .20 MPH. I don't know what the ground speed would be at a responsible engine speed.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I believe that my Parsons trencher will go as slow as 8" per minute. All gear. Lucky for me I haven't had to go that slow very often. Only when digging through solid rock and is it hard on those carbide teeth.

That 8" per minute is at full throttle.