Dam scoop DIY plans

[R W]

RE Reply #10.
What do you use for a ripper?
From what I can make out from the pictures you are cleaning out an existing dam which appears very shallow. Most dams I have constructed if 1000cu/yrds or over are at least
10ft deep or deeper. Measurements for a 1000 cu/yrd dam are 90x70ft top, 30x10ft floor, 10ft deep, batter slope 1 in 3.
There was no way these dams could have been built by conventional methods without the use of a good ripper, the possible exception may have been a self elevating scraper.

 

[Xfaxman]

RE Reply #10.
What do you use for a ripper?
From what I can make out from the pictures you are cleaning out an existing dam which appears very shallow. Most dams I have constructed if 1000cu/yrds or over are at least
10ft deep or deeper. Measurements for a 1000 cu/yrd dam are 90x70ft top, 30x10ft floor, 10ft deep, batter slope 1 in 3.
There was no way these dams could have been built by conventional methods without the use of a good ripper, the possible exception may have been a self elevating scraper.

Don't use a ripper, just the teeth on the 6' wide bucket.

The V417 is 6' wide, 6.5' high and 13' long. Tire size is 14x17.5. Top speed is 15.5 mph, drawbar pull is 7,000 pounds and it will lift over 5,000 pounds!

I angle the the bucket down slightly to pull down as it moves forward and give the tires more traction. In the pictures you can see the teeth marks in the red clay. Look between the tires in the first picture and beside the machine in the second.

This area was never excavated as part of the flood control pond. I have the drain valve open and am removing dirt to fill some low spots by the barn.

Here is what the V417 and the toothed bucket will do in sandrock.

Hard to tell from the picture, but it is about 3 feet deep.

 

[smiley]

I'm most impressed with that Bobcat. Never thought they were capable of digging like that.
I loved working with the big scrapers on short haul projects like landfills, dams and road cut/fills, because you can dig and build your fill with the same machine. But, my thought on your project is that even as good as that Bobcat digs and loads, an excavator and couple dump trucks would move dirt a lot faster than a small scraper. Of course if you're working alone, I can see where a small scraper might be a better choice than running back and forth between machines.
Good luck with our build.

 

[R W]

Can't see dump trucks being utilized successfully unless you have a large tip area or have a dozer to form the bank or level off the dump.
What are you actually referring to in regard to a small scraper. (tractor hauled, self elevating, etc)

 

[smiley]

Can't see dump trucks being utilized successfully unless you have a large tip area or have a dozer to form the bank or level off the dump.
What are you actually referring to in regard to a small scraper. (tractor hauled, self elevating, etc)

As you said you would need a machine to level or large fill/waste area.
Did you ever check out these links? http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/78952-building-small-pull-pan-type-9.html -- http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/25191-homemade-dirt-pan.html
In the US you can usually find an old pull types reasonable and I believe I saw one with teeth on the cutting edge like your Bobcat. They do require a lot of traction and power I think I saw 40 hp per yard someplace. Usually were pulled by a crawler. Your Bobcat would probably handle a small one if the ground is scarified.

 

[R W]

40 HP or better per cu/yrd for a wheel tractor sounds about right, I have used a 60HP Inter on a 1.5 cu/yrd scoop and wouldn't have wanted any less HP.
Once past easy digging material a ripper should be used first if any sort of production is to be maintained.

 

[jwmorris]

Mine has a smooth blade and works fine in sand and red clay.



Hoelscher Commercial Products - DB Scraper

Has a "frose bit" that is between rippers and a solid.

 

[R W]

Have almost completed converting what was originally a "Gaston" 4 wheel lever operated horse drawn scoop to a 2 wheeled tractor drawn hydraulic scoop.

.[/QUOTE} Have completed it, tried it out yesterday and it works well.
Hope to get someone to post pictures.

 

[Xfaxman]

Have almost completed converting what was originally a "Gaston" 4 wheel lever operated horse drawn scoop to a 2 wheeled tractor drawn hydraulic scoop.

.[/QUOTE} Have completed it, tried it out yesterday and it works well.
Hope to get someone to post pictures.

:thumbsup:

Hope to see the pictures.

 

[Renze]

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