Midniteoyl
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You need to take a deep breath man..
Dealing with a coworker...
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weldermike
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How does she dress? If it's somewhat provacative bring it up to all the other employees. Word will get around quick and get back to management that shes getting special treatment for dressing like a **** and flirting with them. And maybe a threat like a call to EEO if they keep this up will open there eyes. This has to get squashed immediately before it snowballs out of control, and it seems like its already on its way.
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And don't be shy about anything. Openly talk about in front of anyone, customers included. Let the whole joint know about her little hig she's got going on everyone elses back. Be calm about it, never curse while talking about it, never raise your voice when talking about it, talk about it right to her and watch her reaction when her emotions sink right in front of you. People like her have been in the game there whole lives. They are not one bit used to someone blatantly going face to face with them and telling them the truth and calling them out on there bsing games because they can't perform there duties 100%. There motto is and I see it all the time is, if I can't stay ahead, ill drag everyone else behind me. Not with me! I dont wanna hate anyone, but I will if I have too. Good luck bud!
LD1
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I like your sisters suggestion about not knowing who to take orders from.:thumbsup:
I used to work with a guy that was VERY similar. We did the exact same job but opposite shifts. Just little things. Like if I forgot or was too busy to but a piece of steel back on the rack, or forgot to put a tool away, it was piled up on my desk or toolbox, instead of just putting it away. Sometimes we just got swamped and didnt have time. But this guy had the mentality that we did everything on purpose just to upset him.
One time, had a job come in an hour before quitting time. Something needing milled at 15 degrees. I was already late clocking out, and didnt have time to tram the mill. He actually called me the next day and raised 10 kinds fo ***** with me over it like he is my boss or something....:confused2: This went back and forth for over a year before the plant closed down.
Unfortunately there was absolutely nothing I could do, as it was a union shop, and short of getting into a fist fight neither one of us was going anywhere, and management couldnt do much either. It sounds like you at least have hope in that department, being non union and sounds like a smaller operation.
I used to work with a guy that was VERY similar. We did the exact same job but opposite shifts. Just little things. Like if I forgot or was too busy to but a piece of steel back on the rack, or forgot to put a tool away, it was piled up on my desk or toolbox, instead of just putting it away. Sometimes we just got swamped and didnt have time. But this guy had the mentality that we did everything on purpose just to upset him.
One time, had a job come in an hour before quitting time. Something needing milled at 15 degrees. I was already late clocking out, and didnt have time to tram the mill. He actually called me the next day and raised 10 kinds fo ***** with me over it like he is my boss or something....:confused2: This went back and forth for over a year before the plant closed down.
Unfortunately there was absolutely nothing I could do, as it was a union shop, and short of getting into a fist fight neither one of us was going anywhere, and management couldnt do much either. It sounds like you at least have hope in that department, being non union and sounds like a smaller operation.
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I manage between 100 and 300 personalities on every project. If you think your person is a pain, come to my end of the world.
This all said, here is my advice from a managers standpoint.
It sounds like you are non union and no HR department. If you have an HR person, it has to be your first stop, as well, your shop boss if you are union.
Documenting your course of action is wise, recording conversations dicey. It sounds to me more like a personality issue than a competence issue (yeah, she doesn't pull her weight, but she isn't stoned or asleep).
So lets assume you have neither HR or Shop Steward. Next step is your immediate Supervisor. You need to have a "formal" meeting with him. You must request this, be it in a parking lot or in the conference room. You need to CALMLY (and this is the hardest part) express your concerns. Listen clearly to his response, and when done with the meeting make some notes. Remember the issue is not you and this girl, but how this girl is making the company look. If you say "I can't stand her" you will end up with a blank stare. You say "She is blowing sales" and you will get some traction.
If your supervisor does not respond then you need to ask him if he is willing to go upstairs with you. This will be your greatest judgement call. Going over your supervisors head is tantamount to treason. I do not like people going over my supervisors heads, 90% of them find themselves unemployed. The other 10% find the supervisor fired.
In all of these meetings, you need to be VERY calm. I hate whiney people. You cannot use an "I" statment. You must show that it is a company issue and not your issue. You must be the professional, and a team player.
Finally, you must be prepared that any action you take might end up with no results, meaning you should look for another job, or that you get fired. There is always another side to the story, and that side could not favor you.
This all said, here is my advice from a managers standpoint.
It sounds like you are non union and no HR department. If you have an HR person, it has to be your first stop, as well, your shop boss if you are union.
Documenting your course of action is wise, recording conversations dicey. It sounds to me more like a personality issue than a competence issue (yeah, she doesn't pull her weight, but she isn't stoned or asleep).
So lets assume you have neither HR or Shop Steward. Next step is your immediate Supervisor. You need to have a "formal" meeting with him. You must request this, be it in a parking lot or in the conference room. You need to CALMLY (and this is the hardest part) express your concerns. Listen clearly to his response, and when done with the meeting make some notes. Remember the issue is not you and this girl, but how this girl is making the company look. If you say "I can't stand her" you will end up with a blank stare. You say "She is blowing sales" and you will get some traction.
If your supervisor does not respond then you need to ask him if he is willing to go upstairs with you. This will be your greatest judgement call. Going over your supervisors head is tantamount to treason. I do not like people going over my supervisors heads, 90% of them find themselves unemployed. The other 10% find the supervisor fired.
In all of these meetings, you need to be VERY calm. I hate whiney people. You cannot use an "I" statment. You must show that it is a company issue and not your issue. You must be the professional, and a team player.
Finally, you must be prepared that any action you take might end up with no results, meaning you should look for another job, or that you get fired. There is always another side to the story, and that side could not favor you.
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Scooby074
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So, Who's she banging?:scratchchin:
hawkeye08
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Just smile constantly and tell her, "Bless your heart". Give her a chocolate when she does what you want, nothing when she doesn't do what you want.
dave1949
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Ya, a deep breath is in order. You may be taking this way more seriously than anyone around you.
From what you have described, are you sure that is the job you want? I know jobs don't grow on trees, but you owe yourself that assessment because you aren't in a healthy situation now.
Your supervisor sounds uncertain, sort of keeping his head down and letting things slide so nothing splashes on him if the SHTF. Nothing worse than working for a weak supervisor and you aren't going to change him. He doesn't like to answer the phone??? WTHeck.
In larger companies, a late review will get the person who was supposed to give it, dinged in their own review, so I am guessing this is not a large outfit and is family owned or operated. Those sorts of places can be heaven or he11 and it's out of your control which type it is. What you can control is which sort you are working in.
I don't recommend getting into tiffs or verbal back and forths with co-workers, that will never reflect well on you no matter how satisfying it may appear. From a supervisor's perspective, you just become part of one of their problems. Since you aren't the "golden girl" you don't stand a snowball's chance in he11 of improving your position that way.
My advice is move on when you can, or accept this as a people skills problem and learn to negotiate it. That's not for every personality, but you can develop some useful interpersonal skills in the learning process if you take up the challenge. If you get really good at it, you will end up in sales or marketing.
It isn't failure if you walk away, but you need to decide what you want to succeed at. Most jobs involve dealing with people to succeed and we know half of them are nuts. :laughing: If you begin with that realization, you are off to a good start.
From what you have described, are you sure that is the job you want? I know jobs don't grow on trees, but you owe yourself that assessment because you aren't in a healthy situation now.
Your supervisor sounds uncertain, sort of keeping his head down and letting things slide so nothing splashes on him if the SHTF. Nothing worse than working for a weak supervisor and you aren't going to change him. He doesn't like to answer the phone??? WTHeck.
In larger companies, a late review will get the person who was supposed to give it, dinged in their own review, so I am guessing this is not a large outfit and is family owned or operated. Those sorts of places can be heaven or he11 and it's out of your control which type it is. What you can control is which sort you are working in.
I don't recommend getting into tiffs or verbal back and forths with co-workers, that will never reflect well on you no matter how satisfying it may appear. From a supervisor's perspective, you just become part of one of their problems. Since you aren't the "golden girl" you don't stand a snowball's chance in he11 of improving your position that way.
My advice is move on when you can, or accept this as a people skills problem and learn to negotiate it. That's not for every personality, but you can develop some useful interpersonal skills in the learning process if you take up the challenge. If you get really good at it, you will end up in sales or marketing.
It isn't failure if you walk away, but you need to decide what you want to succeed at. Most jobs involve dealing with people to succeed and we know half of them are nuts. :laughing: If you begin with that realization, you are off to a good start.
J F
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Just send her some flowers at home with an unsigned note that says "I'm still thinking about last weekend..."