Deck Preservatives Is There A Difference

[Bird]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Switched to Bear (spelled?)after that )</font>

Spelled "Behr" I believe. Many years ago, one of my brothers showed me some homes in the Anchorage area with cedar siding that Behr products were used on; beautiful results.

 

[PBMAX]

Thanks Bird I new it was spelled odd....
We even had a light rain as were finishing up and it beaded up on the deck like fresh waxed car...Have used it since....

 

[MarkV]

I used a Behr tinted oil based transparent finish on a mountain home we built that has cedar shingle siding. It worked real well and has held up pretty well. About two years ago I was ready to put a new coat on the decks and found that the product I used before was not available. When I called Behr to find out where I could get the same thing I was told it had to be pulled off their product line because of EPA problems. Of course they didn't offer anything that matched the color of the old product in their present line. I believe all of their present transparent finishes are water base.

MarkV

 

[PBMAX]

MarkV is just the tranparent products. We tend to use the tinted ones (honey oak i think). Not real found of water based products for anything that gets wet. They IMHO just don't seem to hold up in WET Environments. WONDER WHY /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[MarkV]

Paul I agree about the water based finishes. I just don't feel they hold up as well.

MarkV

 

[PBMAX]

I might be willing to try the Linseed oil and Mineral spirits if any one knows the right mix.....

My MUDDDER in law has hard wood floors thru out even the kitchen and has recently had them refinished and was told the sealent is water based try not to get it wet..... /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif With grandkids is he nuts...??? Apparenlty more than a short period of time say .5 hrs or more and the seleant will start to break down....
i suppose he could be streching it bit to make a point... Given the floor is 10yr old and has done ok with a similar seleant....

 

[MarkV]

Paul,

Hardwood floors are one of the few things I know a bit about. It has been my primary business for the last 20 years. I can't quite imagine what type of finish the guy is talking about. There are water base polyurethane's but after they dry they should not be affected by water. In the old days wax was used on wood floors and it would spot with water, it is rare to see wax used these days. I would be real interested on how you clean a floor that you can not put water on.

I'll bet the finisher poorly worded a caution about the floors while drying. Water base poly dries real fast and should be fine with in 12 hours.

5030 mentions using 1 part boiled linseed oil to 4 parts mineral spirits, sounds about right to me.

MarkV

 

[PBMAX]

I think he was trying to make point with her not to let wet stuff stand to long on the floor.... Because it may cause damage....CYA story, I'd be willin to bet...
But to be honest I don't care for the looks of some of the stuff when it dries...can't explain it it just doesn't look right to me....have seen many Back when I used to wire houses....

Probably cause I spent many a day at my aunts house as a young-in and she had the old wood floor with a realy thick layer of ploy on it, looks a lot like an old gym floor...

Working with wood as you do ( relize there is big dif) but,can you think of any product better than Behr for the money. I need to treat 12x32' deck and rails. Support post are steel and 15' tall..So the deck is way up and exposed top anmd bottum to the eliments...6-8n hrs sun each day and lotssss of 5-30mph wind and rain... Geash you'd think I lived at the beach... /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif Not on a hill... NO trees complete exposure...

Great view though /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Unfortunatly she doesn't know what product was used I asked cause I wanted to post it here...

 

[shvl73]

I was under the impression that water based poly & oil based were somewhat similar, just the carrying liquid was different. I also think water based poly usually has less solids so, more applications are needed to acheive similar results & durability. I could easily be wrong.

 

[MarkV]

Paul,
I wish I knew the best answer for you. I have some decks that need a new finish coat myself. I have had a number of contractors and painters tell me they like CWF made by Flood. Flood They also have a good bit of DIY info on their site. I think that is what I am going to try next.

MarkV