Deer Stand is done.

[tjintheshop]

My deer stand that I built this fall. In the county (WIS) that we live in, they can tax us on our perm deer stands but if they are on farm equipment then they cannot tax us. It is 8x8 and has new stairs in the back towards the pines. I just didnt remove the old stairs. The old stand was only 3x6 and was getting a little too small. Big momma black bear made it her home this summer so I had to rebuild anyway. Tore off the door and broke all the windows. Wife shot a nice cull buck out of it opening weekend. Dont have pics of the buck but neighbor has pics of the bear. I will try to get them and post on here.

 

[theboman]

Tax on a permanent stand?? Wow, I thought KY was bad! I'm glad they haven't heard that one! Do they have a person who goes around looking for stands? I'm sure I'd never let them know... it's a tree house... a big bird house... This country is SO messed up, but by golly it's still the greatest place to live,

 

[Robert_in_NY]

Nice stand. I am glad we don't have very many bears in this area and the few that are here live 10 miles away up in the hills and don't usually come down onto the flats unless they have something wrong with them.

I expect to get taxed on my tower as soon as the assessor finds out about it but I am not going to tell her about it till she asks me. You can see it from the road right now that all the leaves are off but its a long ways off the road.

 

[ToadHill]

I guess it depends on the community. The assessor in my area told me that no added assessment is done for sheds less that 8' x 10' if it's on a permanent location. If it is movable, like skids or (as in my case) an old hay wagon, they won't be assessed at all.

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I guess it depends on the community. The assessor in my area told me that no added assessment is done for sheds less that 8' x 10' if it's on a permanent location. If it is movable, like skids or (as in my case) an old hay wagon, they won't be assessed at all.

Our town doesn't require a permit to build anything less then 100 square feet but they still tax us if its a permanent structure.

 

[20 20]

nice job, just don't forget the NY state saying "we stay because we love paying taxes "

 

[EddieWalker]

I'm sitting here wondering if I'm the victem of a joke that you guys are all in on and just waiting for somebody like me to make a comment so you can hit me with the punchline.

Tax on a deerstand?

While I'm not descrediting anybodies building skills, deer stands are not what I'd call a real building. What do they tax you on? Improvement to the land? Living space? Strorage building? Mini Barn? This can't be real.

If there is a tax on it, is there a code on how to build them? or a legal definition of what a deer blind is and why it's taxed? What about a fort or treehouse for kids?

How does the taxing authority even know you have a deer blind? Arial pictures?

I just don't get it.
Eddie

 

[weldingisfun]

What Eddie said.
That makes no sense. Sounds to me like it is time to vote the members of your state's legislature out of office. They need an opportunity to get real jobs.

 

[jayste]

First, nice idea for a deer stand and congratulations on the harvest. Second, TAX, TAX, TAX.....!!!! I can get real political here but I know it'll do nothing but get this thread sidetracked and shut down. All that I'll say is it's the sign of the times! It took a lot less to get those old boys up in Boston to put on a tea party!

I used to hunt on a fellow that had a few old non-operable combines on his place and I have on occasion got in one on cold days and waited for old mossy to come by!

 

[ToadHill]

Eddie, &Welding: Welcome to the wonderful world of New York State! If it don't move tax it! If it does move tax it even more.

 

[forester2]

Eddie: Technically, NYS can assess property taxes on standing timber even though it might be years away from harvest. Oh, then it's taxed again when you cut it.

 

[budlite]

Now I've heard it all. Unbelieveable!

 

[Robert_in_NY]

I'm sitting here wondering if I'm the victem of a joke that you guys are all in on and just waiting for somebody like me to make a comment so you can hit me with the punchline.

Tax on a deerstand?

While I'm not descrediting anybodies building skills, deer stands are not what I'd call a real building. What do they tax you on? Improvement to the land? Living space? Strorage building? Mini Barn? This can't be real.

If there is a tax on it, is there a code on how to build them? or a legal definition of what a deer blind is and why it's taxed? What about a fort or treehouse for kids?

How does the taxing authority even know you have a deer blind? Arial pictures?

I just don't get it.
Eddie

Eddie, when we started raising deer we put up a shelter in each pen for the deer to be able to go if the weather was real bad and to have a dry place to feed them in. Every 10x10 and 8x12 structure is taxed here. Some of them only have two walls and a roof, others have all 4 walls but two walls have large openings so no deer can be trapped by a buck. They serve a single purpose but are taxed as soon as the assessor sees them. So I am not going to worry about my tower, when she notices it and asks me about it I will tell her what it is and go from there.

Also, the town next to me is real good for taxing people. There are a lot of vineyards in this area and the town next to me will tax you on the type of ground you own regardless if you farm it or not. If its good grape ground you get taxed to death

 

[EddieWalker]

You guys are scaring the heck out of me.

Here in Texas, if you use your land for something like raise livestock, grow crops or are just waiting for the trees to get big enough to harvest, you get your property taxes lowered. I have my land listed as a timber property. One day, I'll harvest some trees off of it and sell them. I will pay a tax on the money I make from the trees, but until them, I get my property tax reduced. For 68 acres and a 1,000 square foot house, I pay under $1,500 a year in property tax.

If I had my excemption under anything other then timber, after five years, I could change it to a wildlife excemption. To qualify for a wildlife excemption, you have to do two things to the land from a list of options. Mowing and clearing some trees would qualify you. It's the geatest thing in the world for anybody except timber landowners. A wildlife property can be used for nature walks, photography or hunting. The list is very broad as to what you can do with the land and keep the tax excemption.

Without a tax excemption, I would pay about three times as much in property tax. There is a formula that they use, and I don't know it off hand. I just know what my bill is because I have to pay it before the end of this month. It's due Dec 31, but you have one month extra to pay it without any penalty.

Eddie

 

[radioman]

From what I understand, some sheds here are not taxed if it not bigger then 8X8. But this varys in different towns. Also if the shed is "portable" it cannot be taxed and can be placed real close to property line. My neighbor has a 8X12 shed on a 8X12 trailer and its parked less then 10 ft from my other neighbors property. He doesnt keep the title regs current but its enough to keep it from being taxed.

 

[jayste]

From what I understand, some sheds here are not taxed if it not bigger then 8X8. But this varys in different towns. Also if the shed is "portable" it cannot be taxed and can be placed real close to property line. My neighbor has a 8X12 shed on a 8X12 trailer and its parked less then 10 ft from my other neighbors property. He doesnt keep the title regs current but its enough to keep it from being taxed.

Radioman, what if you build a building on skids? Say a run-in shed or small barn? Move it in position and stake it down. Would they tax you on that?

 

[tjintheshop]

My neighbor built a 10x10 stand in his woods, not visible from the road and was taxed on it. I dont know how they find out but they do. Our current state law forbids us to hunt on anything portable unless it has one wheel off. In my opnion that makes it perm but they said its ok as long as its farm machinery. We are not allowed any unliscensed vehicles in our yards per zoning but farm equip is exempt. Any shed under 8x8 can be considered portable as long as it sits 6 inches above the ground on skids. They even tried to tax me for waterfront property for my ponds that are over 500ft from the house. Good thing I am zoned agri instead of residential or else they would of got away with it. Any woods over 20 acres is consider recreational and is taxed higher than farm land. Trying not to rant and rave but this does stink.
Anyway, I have a couple old IH tractors that i am thinking on trading in for a compact. Love this site and keep up the good job.

 

[MPrewitt]

Eddie,
I'm glad we live in Texas, We paid our taxes last month on 109 acres and a 2000sf log home.. $2100.00

Murray..

 

[woodsman324]

Back at my old place they raised my taxes as soon as they voted in public water on my road. It took almost 3 years to actually have it available. I complained that they could at least wait till I could use the water and she told me my value went up the minute it was OK'd. Our money is like crack to these govt people. They can't get the concept of cutting back especially with social programs.

 

[Western]

Doesn't the majority of NY go Liberal? They sure seem "liberal" with ya'lls money!
I'm sure in time they will find way's to get around ag exemptions by taxing stuff like deer blinds!!!

"Sure Mr Jones, we'll give you an ag exemption. We will knock of 40% of your "property taxes, then add the 60% "stuff" taxes so you only owe us 120% this year"...huh