Comparison Deere 5065E vs M7060 value & pricing

   / Deere 5065E vs M7060 value & pricing #41  
you can buy the deere loader with the SSQA carrier. when i bought mine it was a $250 option. it did require waiting 3 weeks for the loader to be built/shipped.

the SSQA on my 553 loader is very robust and works quite well. i does ush the bucket a little further out, reducing lifting force and slightly changes the rollback/dump angles
 
   / Deere 5065E vs M7060 value & pricing #42  
If I was buying a deere open station I'd be asking for ear protection from the dealer with purchase!
 
   / Deere 5065E vs M7060 value & pricing #43  
I don't think Deere makes any tractor under 100hp, they either assemble them from parts or they have other manufactuers make them and paint them green with their name on it. I find Deere to be almost always overpriced. In regards to Kubota, I had a MF and befriended the dealer who also sold Kubotas and he told me that the worse thing about the Kubota is that he never got to know the buyers as they never came back for repairs.
Today's tractors don't break down as long as they are operated and maintained the way they are intended.
I think Kubotas are excellent tractors and so are MF, in this day and age one must be colour blind and buy the best value (not price) sometimes this value is hard to assess, but well worth trying.
 
   / Deere 5065E vs M7060 value & pricing
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I don't think Deere makes any tractor under 100hp, they either assemble them from parts or they have other manufactuers make them and paint them green with their name on it. I find Deere to be almost always overpriced. In regards to Kubota, I had a MF and befriended the dealer who also sold Kubotas and he told me that the worse thing about the Kubota is that he never got to know the buyers as they never came back for repairs.
Today's tractors don't break down as long as they are operated and maintained the way they are intended.
I think Kubotas are excellent tractors and so are MF, in this day and age one must be colour blind and buy the best value (not price) sometimes this value is hard to assess, but well worth trying.

I was sure the Deere dealer was going to win the bid but after getting his numbers I’m not optimistic.

They came in way outside our budget and unfortunately don’t have another option in the horsepower range we need. The only other tractor available in 65+ horsepower is the 4066M and I doubt that’s going to be any cheaper due to being a premium model.

If those numbers stay as they are I’ll most likely be going big orange.
 
   / Deere 5065E vs M7060 value & pricing #45  
If I was buying a deere open station I'd be asking for ear protection from the dealer with purchase!

Care to elaborate as to why? Would you require this of the other brands? When I say that I find my 5075E to be the quietest 75 HP that I've ever heard I'm honestly not fanboying the tractor. I've had a couple people comment to me about how quiet it is. I find it to be quieter than a M7060. Not that the M7060 was overly loud, but I honest found it louder than my 5E. This isn't the first 5E I've driven, but I never considered them to be too loud, but they got a new DPF in 2018 so maybe that quieted them down more, but IDK. I honestly don't like how quiet my 5E is, and preferred the noise level of the M7060 at WOT. My 5075E is deceivingly quiet, and I honestly wish it was a little louder, or maybe it's more accurate to say that I wished it was louder. I've gotten use to how quiet it is, and it doesn't bother me anymore, but I do fine it quiet enough to make you think it isn't making much power.

OP what I think you should do is buy the tractor you like most for the $ you're willing to spend. The last thing you should do is make a big purchase because of what people on the internet say. Reason I say this is it's often based on narratives created by people that aren't necessarily true. People on here are very bias against JD from what I've seen. I like my tractor but I'm no JD fanboy. I was looking at tractors for several months before even stopping at a JD dealer largely based on the negative publicist given to JD (namely the 5E series) on this very forum. I was surprised that when I did I liked the 5E series the most out of MF, Kubota and JD because of all the negative about it I've seen on TBN. (These are the only ones I cared to look at.) The reality is most people that down them own a Kubota or sometimes maybe another brand. I'm sure there are some owners or former owners who've had bad experiences with them, but overall most 5E owners seem to be very happy with their tractors.

Look, I honestly don't care what brand someone buys. I think everyone should look at what's out there, go to dealerships and test drive them, etc, and buy what you like if the price is right for you. The only reason I'm getting defensive about the thing is because I keep seeing people pushing these false narratives again the 5E's. Things like, "they're unreliable, just look at the issues this guy on YT is having." Or that they're overly loud and you should wear hearing protection with them but not with other brands. Or "I looked at both M7060 and 5075E and found the M7060 to be better at everything." I've seen people claim that M7060's are just engineered so well and the 5E is just a clusterfuhuck of things pieced together with the Kubota having better initial build quality. I personally found none of these things to be true. IMO the 5E is a tighter machine when new, it fired up faster, and neither machine came across poorly engineered. It's quieter and IMO from the data I've gathered that I trust the 5E's seem to be pretty reliable machines, and if they have a problem other than emissions it's usually the brakes. For someone to say that they compare 2 competitive tractors and they found "everything" to be better about one over the other comes across as fanboying at its finest. I looked and drove both machines, and overall I liked the 5075E more, but there was definitely some things I liked about the M7060 more than the 5E. For example it would be hard to take someone serious if they said, "I looked at both new Ram 1500's and F150's, and found that everything about the Ram was better."

Also people need to stop campaigning again JD assembling some of their tractors in the U.S. and acting like it's so un-American of them. Doing that's make no good sense. The 5E is more American than any other tractor in its class. I will say it again, the 5E is more American than any other tractor in its class. It's actually built in the U.S. unlike any other tractors it competes with. No, it's wheels and fenders aren't stamped here, or its gas tank molded here, etc, etc, but JD made foreign parts are sent in bulk to the JD plant in Grovetown, (Augusta) GA, and the tractors get pieced together riding down an assembly line. Why is this such an issue when looking at every other tractor manufacture and how/where their machines are built? If you fly in a new Boeing 787 Dreamliner it's assembled from parts largely manufactured overseas. Much of the Lockheed F35 is made overseas. If you buy a new F150 many of it's parts are made by foreign manufacturers that have been contracted to make parts for the truck. If you buy a new GM full-size truck it's put together in Mexico.

JD isn't doing anything different from what most other large American manufacturers are doing, but people constantly flame them for being un-American, and trying to be deceiving when they are again the most American made tractor in its class other than maybe a JD 5075M if you want to consider it in the same class which has most of its pieces made here in the U.S. BTW John Deere parts made in India aren't made at Tafe or something. Their parts are made in India at an actual JD plant. The MF 4700 series is made in China. Some might say that because of this the 4700 series must suck as Chinese things are often of poor quality. Still AGCO owns the plant in China and therefore controls the QC of the items that they make and send out, and from my understand and looking at them the 4700 series seems to be a very well build machines even though they're built in China. Again largely because it's still an AGCO plant, and not some other tractor manufacture that AGCO contracts to build the tractor. (Pretty sure its engine is made in Japan BTW) Same with JD. The 5E parts are made in a foreign JD owned plant, and then sent here. It's not like JD is contracting other companies to build 5E's or anything. This is something that people really don't understand, or something they don't really care to understand so that they can find a reason to hold something against the brand or the tractor.

Again the 5E is more American than any other tractor it competes against. At least I can't think of one who's manufacturing employees more American. The plant in Augusta employees thousands of people to built new tractors, and JD likely employees more Americans than any other tractor manufacture out there so you should stop holding that against them. If JD was trying to keep it a secret that they were making parts overseas, and assembling them here then I could see people holding that against them, but they're not doing that. They let it be known how, and where they build any given model of tractor so I don't see an issue. Seriously where's the problem? I know 2 people that work at the JD plant in Augusta, and I live 80 something miles from Augusta, but my wife is from Augusta, and has family that works there. I also have friends local to me who have family members that work there. Point being they are one of the largest employers in their area. I personally am glad my tractor was assembled here in the southeast. Makes me wonder if one of my wifes cousins drove it off the assembly line. I know one of her cousins who works there leads a team of workers who drive the tractors off the lines when they are finished being built.
 
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   / Deere 5065E vs M7060 value & pricing #46  
Re: Deere 5065E vs M7060 value & pricing

Nice post. I went with the Massey Ferguson 4707 for the record. Great machine. It's a "Global" Tractor. Engine is Finland, transmission is Italian. Tires are Norwegian. Tractor is assembled in China at AGCO plant. Loaders are made by Quicke in Tennessee. Build quality is superb. Paint finish is like a car. Very happy with it.

I also heard all the negatives about the 5E series John Deere. I test drove one and actually was impressed overall when specced out with the right stuff (heavier duty loader and adjustable sway links). It was quite nimble, was geared well, comfortable, and had nice visibility. I decided against it due to price, emissions system, and no buddy seat. With a better price, the decision would have been more difficult.. I certainly would not be afraid to own one.

Kubota m7060 is a nice, reliable machine, but when specced well, they are pricey. They do not come standard with much...everything is A la Cart. Again, no buddy seat, and has DPF ( regens). The tractor needs a facelift as it hasn't changed much in 10 years. They will have the M4-071 out this spring, which should be nice.

Best advice, drive all the ones that have good dealer support in your area, narrow search with a budget and what feels best to you. Everyone is different.
 
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   / Deere 5065E vs M7060 value & pricing #47  
its funny you guys talk about all of these new tractors and comforts and creature features an I know them as I have been in a few of the newer 50+ machines at the state fair - I would love to have something mainly for a middle tractor for my dad but I am loving the 5088 for him at this point, he is content an while I would love that for him its not worn out yet and he loves it - I guess that is all that matters - might need one of you all to pull me out with your 4wd when he gets it stuck tho ;-)
 
   / Deere 5065E vs M7060 value & pricing #48  
its funny you guys talk about all of these new tractors and comforts and creature features an I know them as I have been in a few of the newer 50+ machines at the state fair - I would love to have something mainly for a middle tractor for my dad but I am loving the 5088 for him at this point, he is content an while I would love that for him its not worn out yet and he loves it - I guess that is all that matters - might need one of you all to pull me out with your 4wd when he gets it stuck tho ;-)
Your dad is probably wise enough not to get stuck. Old school guys didn't have 4wd and usually didn't need it. Lots of respect for the old guys. ****...I just realized I am almost one of them...turning 50 next month.
 
   / Deere 5065E vs M7060 value & pricing #49  
This is not a thread for personal attacks, c'mon guys.

I've been reading this carefully since I want to move up to this size tractor from my current Kubota.
But I'm scared to leave hydrostatic due to severe arthritis and other issues limiting my ability to keep constant pressure
on controls. So I use cruise constantly, and currently drive my Kubota with my left hand on the cruise lever and my right hand on the wheel.

Does the power reverser work the same on these two models? No one has talked about this I believe.
How much time do you spend pushing in a clutch on these two? Kubota and Deere have always gone different paths
with their treadle design, do they do anything different with the transmission?

I also have Massey, NH and CaseIH near me and have no allegiances except to a good dealer. Which I currently don't have...
 
   / Deere 5065E vs M7060 value & pricing #50  
If weight isn't an issue, I think the MF 4707 is the best value 75hp utility tractor on the market right now.

My only negative on it is the turning radius on tight corners.


Yanmar is about to bring a 75hp and a 90hp tractor to market that will make things very interesting with the IHMT transmission.
 

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