I have been looking around for a used small older 4X4 tractor, around 17hp. I just got a call from a friend who gave me a lead on a Deere 670. I have been looking around the net for info on this tractor and am confused on exactly what it is. Some say it is 16hp others 18hp and some even 20hp. I went back here on this forum 25+ pages and can not find any info. I assume this tractor is not very popular? Can anyone give me info like what size/make motor does this tractor have, weight, are they very reliable, are parts easy to find, are rear 3 point hitch standard, and what is the going price for one....without impliments, though I would like one with at least a belly mower to start with.
Deere 670 info
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therebarely
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The tractor was made by Yanmar in Japan. It is the same frame size as the 790 of today, but I believe it has smaller tires and wheels. It is a 3 cylinder diesel and should be as reliable as any tractor ever made. In addition, parts and service should never be a problem. I believe that the PTO horsepower is 16. Hope this helps.
RobS
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Get a hold of RoyJackson, he used to have a 670 before getting his 790. Therebarely pretty well covered it though. Much the same as the 790 which is a great little tractor.
rdln
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here is a list of eight 670s for sale at JD dealers for price comparisons
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Hi!
As RobS mentioned, I had a 670 for a couple years. It's a sweet little machine....very similar to the 790 with smaller tires and less horsepower. The engine (yes, a Yanmar...whole tractor was built by Yanmar) has 19 gross engine HP and 16.5 @ the PTO.
What are your planned tasks for this machine? It's pretty light weight, so ground engagement might be a hassle. You mentioned a belly mower. That might be hard to find. I'd wager the 670 your looking at doesn't have a mid-PTO either. When I bought mine, I got a 60" Befco Rear Finishing Mower as part of the deal. My 670 did a fine job with that. It even did quite well with a 60" rotary cutter (as long as I went pretty slow!). The loader (a #60) has a capacity of about 700 lbs at full lift. Make sure you use rear ballast if you use that loader!
As far as parts...I never had any problems, but that was 2 years ago. There's a fair amount of comonality with the 790 (a current machine) so I don't think parts (IF you need any!) should be a problem!
You don't mention if the machine you're looking at has MFWD or a loader. If 2WD, I'd guess $3000-$4000 would be right (assuming it's in really good condition and fairly low (less then 800) hours). With MFWD, add maybe a thousand. If MFWD and a loader, $6000-$7000 should be right. If this is a private seller, you should be able to haggle at least $500 off what I've suggested.
Please feel free to PM if you have more questions...I'll be happy to help!
As RobS mentioned, I had a 670 for a couple years. It's a sweet little machine....very similar to the 790 with smaller tires and less horsepower. The engine (yes, a Yanmar...whole tractor was built by Yanmar) has 19 gross engine HP and 16.5 @ the PTO.
What are your planned tasks for this machine? It's pretty light weight, so ground engagement might be a hassle. You mentioned a belly mower. That might be hard to find. I'd wager the 670 your looking at doesn't have a mid-PTO either. When I bought mine, I got a 60" Befco Rear Finishing Mower as part of the deal. My 670 did a fine job with that. It even did quite well with a 60" rotary cutter (as long as I went pretty slow!). The loader (a #60) has a capacity of about 700 lbs at full lift. Make sure you use rear ballast if you use that loader!
As far as parts...I never had any problems, but that was 2 years ago. There's a fair amount of comonality with the 790 (a current machine) so I don't think parts (IF you need any!) should be a problem!
You don't mention if the machine you're looking at has MFWD or a loader. If 2WD, I'd guess $3000-$4000 would be right (assuming it's in really good condition and fairly low (less then 800) hours). With MFWD, add maybe a thousand. If MFWD and a loader, $6000-$7000 should be right. If this is a private seller, you should be able to haggle at least $500 off what I've suggested.
Please feel free to PM if you have more questions...I'll be happy to help!
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Ok, the link worked right after i posted it but must have something to do with cookies or cache or some silly ie thing anyways here are pics of jd dealer 670s
as Roy mentioned mid pto may not be there, look underneath and for two yellow levers next to each other under the front of the seat.
as Roy mentioned mid pto may not be there, look underneath and for two yellow levers next to each other under the front of the seat.
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Hi Roy thanks for info. This would be my first tractor. I only have about 1 acre to mow and a paved lot about 1/3 acre to snow plow, another acre is woods/brush. The terrain in my yard is very rough like baja with a steep incline going across the front of the property up to the house. I am now running an 18hp Murray with 46" deck, it has a weak transaxle, will not push snow that gets much more than 4" and the rear wheels spin alot trying to mow up the front incline even with chains on the tires. We just bought this fixer upper house a year ago and needed something to get us going and the Murray was there only $500 with plow and snowblower. My immideate uses for a tractor now is mowing and snow removal, eventually I would like to have a brush cutter to cut the brush back and lifting forks would come in real handy for taking loaded pallets (up to around 500 - 600 lbs) off the back of the pick up, and a chipper would be very handy. Originally I was looking at something like the Bolens G174 built by Iseki, it seemes like the perfect size tractor for my needs and the price they are getting for them is very much in my range and reach, but it seems getting parts for them is difficult and when you do find a part they are very expensive, like $150 for a head gasket or $100 for a radiator hose. I need a tractor for work ,not for show or collecting. I would like to get into a 4X4 desil. I had not considered a deere as the price on them seems way way out till I got a call from a freind who has a friend with the 670, all I know about it is it is 4X4 and it has a mower not sure what type. The guy is out of town and supposed to be around this Saturday, so I hope to hook up with him and take a look. RDLN: I will check that out, it would need that for a belly mower right? Are 3 point hitchs standard on these tractors?
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"Are 3 point hitchs standard on these tractors?"
Yes, the tractor will have a 3PH (unless someone removed the arms). I used an RFM (as I'd written in my first post). Mid-PTO's were available, as were belly mowers. I think you'd have a tough time finding the adapter kit now though.
Since you mentioned your property is kind of steep, I will advise you to get the rear tires filled (if they aren't already). The tractor isn't particularly unstable but you will want to be very careful going across any slopes. You'll be better off going up and down a slope. If the grass is wet, don't even try going up or down...wet grass is slick!
I plowed with a rear blade (60") which does a fine job. You can either drive forward or reverse but you will want to use the convex side of the blade.
Before you buy those forks, invest in a ballast box, or fabricate one. If you're planning on lifting a pallet of 500-600 lbs, you want at least that much weight (as ballast) on the rear. You'll also want to add pressure to the front tires (trust me, if you don't add pressure, the tires may roll off the rims).
Keep us posted on the 670!
BTW, RDLN posted pictures from Machine Finder.com. One of those was a 670 being sold by a Maine dealer. That ad has been on Machine Finder for at least two years. He was asking too much money (IMHO) for a used 670. FYI, the MFWD 670 went for about 12 thousand new.
Yes, the tractor will have a 3PH (unless someone removed the arms). I used an RFM (as I'd written in my first post). Mid-PTO's were available, as were belly mowers. I think you'd have a tough time finding the adapter kit now though.
Since you mentioned your property is kind of steep, I will advise you to get the rear tires filled (if they aren't already). The tractor isn't particularly unstable but you will want to be very careful going across any slopes. You'll be better off going up and down a slope. If the grass is wet, don't even try going up or down...wet grass is slick!
I plowed with a rear blade (60") which does a fine job. You can either drive forward or reverse but you will want to use the convex side of the blade.
Before you buy those forks, invest in a ballast box, or fabricate one. If you're planning on lifting a pallet of 500-600 lbs, you want at least that much weight (as ballast) on the rear. You'll also want to add pressure to the front tires (trust me, if you don't add pressure, the tires may roll off the rims).
Keep us posted on the 670!
BTW, RDLN posted pictures from Machine Finder.com. One of those was a 670 being sold by a Maine dealer. That ad has been on Machine Finder for at least two years. He was asking too much money (IMHO) for a used 670. FYI, the MFWD 670 went for about 12 thousand new.
I was just over on ebay and saw that one sold for $3800, nothing with it. It figures that one close to me at that dealer in ME would be listed for so much but these small desil 4X4 tractors are scarce as hens teeth up here so any that do come up for sale are going for mega bucks, even private sales going through the local want add, not to many of them and big bucks for ones for sale. I also went to a couple other local dealers around here and same story big money for used, I think maybe it is becuse as long as they have it sitting out front it brings people in then they tell you for just a couple thousand more you can buy a new one. If they sell the used one out front they know they may not get another for awhile and loose that lure to bring people in. I don't know this for sure but that is what I think the game is with dealers and used equipment up here. I know I will have to travel to get a good deal on one. I would not want to think of what the cost to ship one would be.
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Ray:
The 670 was made from 1989 to about 1998. While Deere's demand a high price, they are reliable as rocks. The 670 was a little brother of the 770 which was replaced in 1999 by the 790. The 670's a few inches shorter than the 770 and about 200 lbs lighter. I've had a 98 770 for almost four years and like yuo it was a first tractor for me, basically a California city boy. The maintenance is simple for anyone with basic mechanical skills. The only parts I've replaced have beenoil, oil and fuel filters and I changed the hydraulic fluid and filter, and a battery. It had 223 hours when I bought it and it now has 471.
Hours on tractors like this are at rated rpm. In my case it 2,600. One hour at 1,300 rpm would register as 1/2 hour. The 670 has a smaller, higher reving engine which has rated hp at 3,000 rpm.
My 770 doesn't burn a drop of oil and starts first time, every time. The engine if properly maintained will probably go 3,000 hrs or more. I will get a professional service at 500 hrs because I want the valves adjusted. The Yanmar engine is very well built and has been used in marine applications for years. Deere could use anyone's tractor to sell as a Deere and they choose the Yanmar because they are bullet proof.
Good luck with your purchase.
The 670 was made from 1989 to about 1998. While Deere's demand a high price, they are reliable as rocks. The 670 was a little brother of the 770 which was replaced in 1999 by the 790. The 670's a few inches shorter than the 770 and about 200 lbs lighter. I've had a 98 770 for almost four years and like yuo it was a first tractor for me, basically a California city boy. The maintenance is simple for anyone with basic mechanical skills. The only parts I've replaced have beenoil, oil and fuel filters and I changed the hydraulic fluid and filter, and a battery. It had 223 hours when I bought it and it now has 471.
Hours on tractors like this are at rated rpm. In my case it 2,600. One hour at 1,300 rpm would register as 1/2 hour. The 670 has a smaller, higher reving engine which has rated hp at 3,000 rpm.
My 770 doesn't burn a drop of oil and starts first time, every time. The engine if properly maintained will probably go 3,000 hrs or more. I will get a professional service at 500 hrs because I want the valves adjusted. The Yanmar engine is very well built and has been used in marine applications for years. Deere could use anyone's tractor to sell as a Deere and they choose the Yanmar because they are bullet proof.
Good luck with your purchase.
Thanks Joe1. I never knew an hour meter ran on engine RPM I assumed it was like a clock every minute the tractor runs is a minute on the hour meter. This site is great! Alot of great people here with a world of knowlage helping out and sharing thoughts and info. What about fuel economy of a gas vs desil motor? I go through about 1 1/2 gallons of gas to mow our yard, the Murray has a 5 speed trans I usually run most of the time in 3rd or 4th gear at about 2/3 throttle. My wife when she runs it usually runs in 1st-2nd gear full throttle, she uses over 2 gallons each time she mows. Another question, what are loaded tires? I know they add weight, what do they use to do that and does it make the tires flat proof too? I just got a call from the guy with the 670, I got his address and am going to meet him tomorrow around 2 in the afternoon, I did get some info on the tractor. It is 4X4, has about 340 hours, has a mid belly mower, and a deere yard trailer that goes with it. I guess he is a car collector and bought this tractor just for a toy, but hardly never uses it, he has pros come in and do all his yard care, it has been stored inside a climate controlled garge all it's life, he brings it to a deere dealer once a year for complete service no matter how much he uses it, just had it serviced last Sept., he has all recipts for all service work done, and all the orginal tags, owners manual, and paper work that came with it when it was new, he said it is in show room condition. Sooo if it's as nice as he says and we can aggree on a price I will most likely buy it.
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RobS
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I can't speak to the economy with facts, but a good chance you'll use much less fuel with a diesel. Kind of like a gas pickup versus a diesel. Loaded tires are fluid filled for weight. Usually only filled about 3/4 full. Up your way, will be either CaCl (Calcium Chloride) dissolved in water or Rim Guard which is beet juice. Neither will freeze and both are denser than just plain water. Calcium has the nasty habit of rusting steel but it's been used for generations without major problems.
Sounds like a very nice tractor. The belly mower is a real plus but the lack of loader is unfortunate. If you've never had a loader, you'll probably not notice but once you've had one you'll wonder how you ever survived without. With the belly mower, it'll have the mid-PTO. Check for DSCV (dual selective control valve). It's what operates the loader and will be a longish lever to the right of the seat. Future loader install would be much easier and cheaper if it has the valve already. Not a showstopper though, it can be added later.
4X4 is a plus. With a belly mower it'll probably have turf tires. Another consideration depending on your needs.
Check for battery tray corrosion. The x90 series had a problem with battery leakage and corrosion. Again, not a show stopper, just something else to look at. With that few hours, I'd expect it to be in pretty fine shape.
Sounds like a very nice tractor. The belly mower is a real plus but the lack of loader is unfortunate. If you've never had a loader, you'll probably not notice but once you've had one you'll wonder how you ever survived without. With the belly mower, it'll have the mid-PTO. Check for DSCV (dual selective control valve). It's what operates the loader and will be a longish lever to the right of the seat. Future loader install would be much easier and cheaper if it has the valve already. Not a showstopper though, it can be added later.
4X4 is a plus. With a belly mower it'll probably have turf tires. Another consideration depending on your needs.
Check for battery tray corrosion. The x90 series had a problem with battery leakage and corrosion. Again, not a show stopper, just something else to look at. With that few hours, I'd expect it to be in pretty fine shape.
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Does the 670 or 970 have live rear pto? How do they operate? Your knowledge on would be helpful to me.
Klink
Does the 670 or 970 have live rear pto? How do they operate? Your knowledge on would be helpful to me.
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Just got back from looking at the 670. Unbelieveable!! 
I got to the guys house at 2 we introduced ourselves, his name is Norman, he took me into the garage to look at the 670. It was beautiful. looked like it was nerver used. He fired it up, purred like a kitten, he asked if I wanted to take it for a spin I said heck ya. I went out the garage and headed down the driveway, I know I had to have this tractor it felt like a real machine nothing like the cheep Muray I now have with 4" play in the steering and all. When I got to the end of the drive I did a 3 point turn and started heading back toward the garage thinking I would do a couple 360's to see how tight the turning radius was on it and all and wondering if I could take it home with the cash I had in my pocket ($4500), when all of a sudden some guy came up behind me in a BMW, pulled up along side of me and started yelling at me, I stoped and asked him what was worng, he wanted to know what I was doing, I told him I was buying a tractor, he said what do you mean? I said I mean am am buying a tracktor, he said that tractor? I said ya! He said like f*** you are and matted his gas pedal to the floor and went up to the garage, I put the tractor back in gear and started heading for the garage thinking this is not good. When I got back up to the front of the garage I shut the 670 down and could hear the guy yelling and screaming at Norman, I didn't know what to do so I just stood outside looking the 670 over when the guy came out of the garge he looked at me and said go f*** yourself got in his BMW and sped off. Norman came out and told me to come in. Seems the angery guy was his son and mad that his father was selling the tracktor to a stranger and wanted the tracktor himself. So Norman told me sorry, and offered me $20 for my trouble. Needless to say on my way home I was pretty bummed. So the search goes on.
I got to the guys house at 2 we introduced ourselves, his name is Norman, he took me into the garage to look at the 670. It was beautiful. looked like it was nerver used. He fired it up, purred like a kitten, he asked if I wanted to take it for a spin I said heck ya. I went out the garage and headed down the driveway, I know I had to have this tractor it felt like a real machine nothing like the cheep Muray I now have with 4" play in the steering and all. When I got to the end of the drive I did a 3 point turn and started heading back toward the garage thinking I would do a couple 360's to see how tight the turning radius was on it and all and wondering if I could take it home with the cash I had in my pocket ($4500), when all of a sudden some guy came up behind me in a BMW, pulled up along side of me and started yelling at me, I stoped and asked him what was worng, he wanted to know what I was doing, I told him I was buying a tractor, he said what do you mean? I said I mean am am buying a tracktor, he said that tractor? I said ya! He said like f*** you are and matted his gas pedal to the floor and went up to the garage, I put the tractor back in gear and started heading for the garage thinking this is not good. When I got back up to the front of the garage I shut the 670 down and could hear the guy yelling and screaming at Norman, I didn't know what to do so I just stood outside looking the 670 over when the guy came out of the garge he looked at me and said go f*** yourself got in his BMW and sped off. Norman came out and told me to come in. Seems the angery guy was his son and mad that his father was selling the tracktor to a stranger and wanted the tracktor himself. So Norman told me sorry, and offered me $20 for my trouble. Needless to say on my way home I was pretty bummed. So the search goes on.
RobS
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Aarghh...
Sorry to hear of your difficulties. What a difference an hour would have made, eh? You'll find something else, don't worry.
Sorry to hear of your difficulties. What a difference an hour would have made, eh? You'll find something else, don't worry.
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Man yhat SUCKS
Sorry you missed out on such a great tractor...
Gotta ask though, did you take the $20.00?
Sorry you missed out on such a great tractor...
Gotta ask though, did you take the $20.00?
rdln
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If I was Norman, I woulda sold to you just to spite the a_ _hole son
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klink said:
That depends on if the tractor has a single stage or dual stage clutch. If a single stage (mostly on 2WD units), no...no live PTO. Most MFWD machines have a live PTO. The drill is to push the clutch ½ down to shift gears (the PTO continues spinning). Pushing the clutch all the way stops the PTO.
Both my 670 and 790 have the dual stage clutch.
I hate to admit this, but I never realized my 670 had a dual stage clutch! I always pressed the clutch all the way down. I never had a problem when mowing or brush cutting. The inertia of the blades kept them spinning when I shifted gears.
RobS: Well I showed up at the agreed time. When I saw the tracktor I knew I wanted it. Maybe I should have just layed the cash on the hood got him to write the bill of sale instead of messing around driving it.
KennyD: No I didn't take the $20 I just put my tail between my legs and left. Thing is I have a Dodge ram 4X4 dually with a gas 360 in it, the trip cost me 7 hours driving and $150 down and back with gas and tolls draging the trailer.
rdln: I'll tell you if that was my boy and he treated me like that I would have slapped him up side the head. He is an a**hole, I wanted to kick him in the nuts when he walked out and told me to go f*** myself. I moved out of the heavy populated area down there to the country to get away from people like that. I'll just keep watching, something will turn up. Meanwhile the old Murray is running and doing it's job. I just hope I don't break it and it gets me through the winter, they are predicting another snow storm Wednesday. I don't know if any of you are interested but I put a couple pictures of it up in the Iseki forum in the thread Upgrading to Bolens G174. I was thinking of picking one of those up, they are priced right but parts seem to be an issue with them. I want to thank you all for your information, who knows I might end up with a deere yet.
KennyD: No I didn't take the $20 I just put my tail between my legs and left. Thing is I have a Dodge ram 4X4 dually with a gas 360 in it, the trip cost me 7 hours driving and $150 down and back with gas and tolls draging the trailer.
rdln: I'll tell you if that was my boy and he treated me like that I would have slapped him up side the head. He is an a**hole, I wanted to kick him in the nuts when he walked out and told me to go f*** myself. I moved out of the heavy populated area down there to the country to get away from people like that. I'll just keep watching, something will turn up. Meanwhile the old Murray is running and doing it's job. I just hope I don't break it and it gets me through the winter, they are predicting another snow storm Wednesday. I don't know if any of you are interested but I put a couple pictures of it up in the Iseki forum in the thread Upgrading to Bolens G174. I was thinking of picking one of those up, they are priced right but parts seem to be an issue with them. I want to thank you all for your information, who knows I might end up with a deere yet.
