Diabetes

[daugen]

I find that breakfast is the hardest meal to avoid carbs and sugars. We seem to want a jump start in the morning and I suppose caffeine and sugar does that. And if you don't keep drinking the coffee, and perhaps the sugar too, you crash later and of course feel even more tired. A somewhat addictive cycle that I now believe the food industry has promoted. Like cigarettes...

Eggs are my new friend I guess. Now eat them three or four times a week, not just on Sunday morning. I would love to find a whole grain fiber cereal that actually kept me from being hungry for four hours. Normal cereal toppings are loaded with sugar...bananas, raisins, fruit
The only way I don't get hungry for four or five hours is by eating meat or cheese. Yogurt's only good for an hour or two, though I suppose I could doctor up a custom breakfast drink that would be good for me. My sister has been doing this for decades. I seem to have a need to chew...

I keep coming back to square one and I want to collect the $200 by eating my way out of what I ate my way in to. For two months several years ago I tracked my sugar readings on a medical health program, looking for trends or a learning moment. I wasn't far out of range, so my primary doc just gave me the "watch it" advice, and I did, sort of. But nowhere near enough.

There are several obviously learned folk in this thread. Could someone recap the various sugar/diabetes tests available and what they tell us? I get a comprehensive blood test once a year and have been getting several more often. The primary doc I'm sure will now ratchet me back to annual AIC testing.
The insurance companies don't want to pay for excessive testing but if AIC goes back three months, would it be smart to have it done more often? I wonder what Medicare/supplement pays for. Likely once a year at most. Of course I could pay for the test myself but then you put a bullseye on your back for a list price ripoff.

 

[Buppies]

Buppies it is not red meat per say but the protein. About half of the protein that we eat gets converted to glucose and is why we do not need to eat carbs to make glucose. This why the risk of cancer increases the most from eating carbohydrates, so so from eating protein with no cancer risk increase when eating fats. We die without fats and protein after a time so protein and fats are required for good health but not carbs.

Everyone's body does not react the same to different types of food mine for one chicken no blood sugar spike red meat yes coffee good for 30 point spike others no. Eggs are good But causes rise in bad colestral sp. each person is different so not one magic bullet. Counting carbs and watching what I eat is the key for me. Others should do what works for them

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Everyone's body does not react the same to different types of food mine for one chicken no blood sugar spike red meat yes coffee good for 30 point spike others no. Eggs are good But causes rise in bad colestral sp. each person is different so not one magic bullet. Counting carbs and watching what I eat is the key for me. Others should do what works for them

That is true about we all can be different.

Read up on eggs because someone has giving you information that is not medically correct today it sounds. Well on eggs they can lead to a short term bump in cholesterol until the body stops making so much. Only 25% of our cholesterol comes from the food we eat but is make by our bodies so we do not die from the lack of cholesterol.

What do you put in your coffee to cause a spike. I put 3 tablespoons of coconut oil and 2 oz of heavy whipping cream in my first cup of coffee but since they are fats there is no spike in blood sugar because there are basically no carbs or protein in either.

 

[Buppies]

Nothing black only but now no longer drink it don't miss it.

I also fight the gout double edge sword about what I can and cannot eat but so far happy what we are doing to treat issues health wise. Breakfast bagel water , lunch smart pop pop corn, pimento cheese sandwich low carb bread, snack afternoon yogurt. Dinner salad chicken corn or green beans. Vary some but not much , tomato soup varying types of chicken every two weeks or so tacos but in limited quantities

 

[daugen]

Received comprehensive lab tests in the mail today. Happy that my AIC was 5.8, supposedly a three month average,
then why did I flunk the glucose with a 112 after fasting since the night before? Maybe the normal ups and downs.
Total cholesterol without statins was 166, that was ok, but I flunked triglycerides with a 197. LDL 65, HDL 62 (someone want to educate
us all on what those represent and how important?
I think most of us are learning something here.

And thankfully my PSA hasn't moved from 2.7
Heart was 120/80

all in all, I think I'll live but I sure had better continue to reduce my consumption of sugar and carbs.
And if my triglycerides are high, that means cut out what?

It's funny, at dinner out several nights ago, bread basket came, it was run of the mill supermarket rolls.
Not what I would call a quality carb so it stayed in the basket. Didn't make the cut. But if it was homemade, or multigrain, or or or...
breads are hard to turn down. Particularly if one is eating high fibre breads.
But I figure I've already cut down my consumption of sugar considerably, so making progress.
No family history of diabetes whatsoever.

Every other test result in normal range.
No family history of internal disease other than cancer. Cancer killed them all, every member of my family,
So I also have to be thinking of eating things that are anti oxidants, etc.
This is why folks who can afford it hire dieticians I suppose. I need this and this, but not that...

 

[brown40]

There are some introductory nutrition classes/texts available that have programs included to analyze your intake over time and give you a +/- on dietary allowances. In long-term care there were dozens of diets and strategies for helping restore/maintain/improve health. Do a little browsing for therapeutic diets and intro nutrition and you'll likely find one with software that gives you front-end data, so lab testing feels less chancy and becomes a confirmation that your choices are the right ones. The longer a period you study, the better the result. Kind of surprising to see what nutrients our habitual diets lack. Congratulations on the results!

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Received comprehensive lab tests in the mail today. Happy that my AIC was 5.8, supposedly a three month average,
then why did I flunk the glucose with a 112 after fasting since the night before? Maybe the normal ups and downs.
Total cholesterol without statins was 166, that was ok, but I flunked triglycerides with a 197. LDL 65, HDL 62 (someone want to educate
us all on what those represent and how important?
I think most of us are learning something here.

And thankfully my PSA hasn't moved from 2.7
Heart was 120/80

all in all, I think I'll live but I sure had better continue to reduce my consumption of sugar and carbs.
And if my triglycerides are high, that means cut out what?

It's funny, at dinner out several nights ago, bread basket came, it was run of the mill supermarket rolls.
Not what I would call a quality carb so it stayed in the basket. Didn't make the cut. But if it was homemade, or multigrain, or or or...
breads are hard to turn down. Particularly if one is eating high fibre breads.
But I figure I've already cut down my consumption of sugar considerably, so making progress.
No family history of diabetes whatsoever.

Every other test result in normal range.
No family history of internal disease other than cancer. Cancer killed them all, every member of my family,
So I also have to be thinking of eating things that are anti oxidants, etc.
This is why folks who can afford it hire dieticians I suppose. I need this and this, but not that...

Daugen you numbers look pretty fair but the triglycerides. On BG 112 fasting is over 100 but my is 10 points higher fasting than 1 hour after I eat. Cutting out/reducing sugar/carbs should do the trick based on my results. I cut them out and got rid of most of my joint and muscle pain and all of my IBS problems of 40 year duration. Oh and lost 50 pounds and maintained at 200 for past 12 months at 2500 calories daily.

On lipids by cutting out sugar and all forms of grains over a period of one year Trig went from 209 to 52, Total Chol 404 to 310, HDL 38 to 72, LDL 323 to 228

This change gave me the results I was looking for which is only the Triglycerides/HDL.

I want my Total Cholesterol >200 to protect from premature death.

 

[MinnesotaEric]

Doing the LCHF thing and you wake up with higher fasting numbers?

Read this:

Reversing Diabetes- My Ketogenic Journey To Health!: Glucagon, The Forgotten Hormone In Diabetes.

 

[daugen]

Doing the LCHF thing and you wake up with higher fasting numbers?

Read this:

Reversing Diabetes- My Ketogenic Journey To Health!: Glucagon, The Forgotten Hormone In Diabetes.

thanks Eric, very helpful, plus it reiterates the impact of large protein intake as well as carbs

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Doing the LCHF thing and you wake up with higher fasting numbers?

Read this:

Reversing Diabetes- My Ketogenic Journey To Health!: Glucagon, The Forgotten Hormone In Diabetes.

Eric thanks for the link. I was taught Diabetes is not reversible. Thankful for many that was just false info. Finding the right diet can seem to fix many health problems.