Diagnose a bottom plow
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I don't think it uses a ford share. This Leinbach says it uses Ford parts. Notice how the 3rd bolt is offset from the other 2? On mine, they are all in a straight line.
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bullbreaker
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gwdixon
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The Ford 101 shares have three holes in a line. See pics below.
Your plow looks fine just as it is. It should plow in decent soil just fine.
The way it sits on the tractor also looks OK in the photo. A bit tilted perhaps.
The first pass should have the share parallel to the ground. Then it needs to be re-adjusted to be parallel to the ground with the tire in the first furrow (and all further furrows). Once again, Everything Attachments has a visual.
With a small, light tractor it will react to seemingly minor adjustments so it may be a matter of messing with it until you find what works.
Plow bolts almost always get trashed and new ones needed with a new share or shin. Usually their heads are almost gone by the time a replacement is needed.
Your plow looks fine just as it is. It should plow in decent soil just fine.
The way it sits on the tractor also looks OK in the photo. A bit tilted perhaps.
The first pass should have the share parallel to the ground. Then it needs to be re-adjusted to be parallel to the ground with the tire in the first furrow (and all further furrows). Once again, Everything Attachments has a visual.
With a small, light tractor it will react to seemingly minor adjustments so it may be a matter of messing with it until you find what works.
Plow bolts almost always get trashed and new ones needed with a new share or shin. Usually their heads are almost gone by the time a replacement is needed.
Farmwithjunk
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I found an old "Adams" plow parts manual from the early '70's. Allis Chalmers had a couple plow models with offset hole near point, similar to the share on the Leinbach plow.
Not all Ford shares were 3 hole. 101's were, but Ford sold semi-mounted and larger CAT II plows (among others) that had 4 and 5 bolts.
Also, some Ford plows DID have offset holes. (Models 150, 151, 152, 154, which was actually built by Oliver) The link below will show several White, Oliver, MM, Ford , and David Brown plow shares with the offset bolt holes.
http://www.wieseindustries.com/lol164-plowshare_v_2671_-1,79,226.cfm
The pictures show your plow is NOT "just fine". As you apparently already realize, there should NOT be a gap between share and frog. And there is OBVIOUS wear on the leading edge of the share. 99 times in 100, that'll be the cause of a plow not wanting to "suck" into the ground.
Once you find out what share will fit your plow, look for a "rock share" or "deep suck share" to fit it. They'll have a little "nose" on the point that starts the share to digging in under tough soil conditions.
Not all Ford shares were 3 hole. 101's were, but Ford sold semi-mounted and larger CAT II plows (among others) that had 4 and 5 bolts.
Also, some Ford plows DID have offset holes. (Models 150, 151, 152, 154, which was actually built by Oliver) The link below will show several White, Oliver, MM, Ford , and David Brown plow shares with the offset bolt holes.
http://www.wieseindustries.com/lol164-plowshare_v_2671_-1,79,226.cfm
The pictures show your plow is NOT "just fine". As you apparently already realize, there should NOT be a gap between share and frog. And there is OBVIOUS wear on the leading edge of the share. 99 times in 100, that'll be the cause of a plow not wanting to "suck" into the ground.
Once you find out what share will fit your plow, look for a "rock share" or "deep suck share" to fit it. They'll have a little "nose" on the point that starts the share to digging in under tough soil conditions.
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gwdixon
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My "just fine" comment was based on Haywire stating that he straightened the frog and that the share is not completely worn out. The plow should work.
Here are some pic of a worn out plow that was being used regularly by the owner before it was rebuilt. It had sat out over winter and was purchased for spring plowing.
The worn out/broken shin was on the front frog as you might imagine.
Here are some pic of a worn out plow that was being used regularly by the owner before it was rebuilt. It had sat out over winter and was purchased for spring plowing.
The worn out/broken shin was on the front frog as you might imagine.
Chilly807
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I've got a link to a plow manual if you want to have a look at it. It's for a Ferguson plow, but may help you a bit with setup. Not the easiest thing to read, you have to open a link to each page as you go. I ended up printing a manual in the end.
Ferguson Moldboard Plow Service Manual
Sean
Ferguson Moldboard Plow Service Manual
Sean
thanks for the manual Chilly.
Took the plow to the New Holland/Kubota dealer today and he said the bolt pattern wasn't anything he'd seen before and the old share didn't match up to anything he had in the back. He suggested trying Tractor Supply. They didn't have anything and didn't list any 12" plow parts at all in their printed catalog.
The JD dealer took my share into the back and came out with a 14" JD share that fit the 2 bolt pattern on the old share and said to just cut off the back 2". For $15 I thought I'd give it a try. Think it'll work? Thought I'd mark where the 3rd bolt would go and see if the machine shop could drill and countersink it for a full head plow bolt or a regular countersink bolt. I doubt any of my drills could cut hardened stuff and I know my countersinks would just round off.
Here's a pic of them bolted together to show the difference in the profile. --Ian
Took the plow to the New Holland/Kubota dealer today and he said the bolt pattern wasn't anything he'd seen before and the old share didn't match up to anything he had in the back. He suggested trying Tractor Supply. They didn't have anything and didn't list any 12" plow parts at all in their printed catalog.
The JD dealer took my share into the back and came out with a 14" JD share that fit the 2 bolt pattern on the old share and said to just cut off the back 2". For $15 I thought I'd give it a try. Think it'll work? Thought I'd mark where the 3rd bolt would go and see if the machine shop could drill and countersink it for a full head plow bolt or a regular countersink bolt. I doubt any of my drills could cut hardened stuff and I know my countersinks would just round off.
Here's a pic of them bolted together to show the difference in the profile. --Ian
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I pull a Howse single 14" with my BX2200 and it sucks itself right into the ground (yellow/brown clay) in my gardens. It looks similar to your plow. Mine is designed to be used with a compact series tractor, but I modified the drawbar to use with my BX.
If it weren't for the fact that the plow cost me nearly nothing, I would probably have bought the Leinbach plow for Sub Compacts and went with a 12" moldboard.
If I can find a couple of older brinley plows I want to make a 2-bottom 10" plow for my tractor.
If it weren't for the fact that the plow cost me nearly nothing, I would probably have bought the Leinbach plow for Sub Compacts and went with a 12" moldboard.
If I can find a couple of older brinley plows I want to make a 2-bottom 10" plow for my tractor.
