Did a little hay last week ...

   / Did a little hay last week ... #191  
Looking good ... is that a field with the grasshopper?

This one is at my house(300lbs) triple13 and overseeded in common and has alot of coastal in it,just 2acres.Actually was part of my yard but I thought it would be fun to see what it would make.Here is a photo of me mowing it last year 5040 and ds1440.JPGyard2.JPG I will get photos of the place with grasshopper on it,this weekend.
 
   / Did a little hay last week ... #192  
I give up...broke a chain today after spending another hr looking for the problem. We made and agreement with a local rancher/farmer to cut our field on "half" for the rest of this year. I just don't have the time to mess with old equipment.....when I can afford it I am going to buy a new baler.
 
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#193  
I give up...broke a chain today after spending another hr looking for the problem. We made and agreement with a local rancher/farmer to cut our field on "half" for the rest of this year. I just don't have the time to mess with old equipment.....when I can afford it I am going to buy a new baler.

Well dang ... at least you'll get the hay up ... which chain broke?
 
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My manual says for "Bale Stops Turning"(I know its a different mfg)
1.) Tailgate is open
2.) Overfilled bale chamber
3.) Belt drive rollers not operating
4.) Idler roller jammed

I believe 1 and 2 can be ruled out ... #3 it says to check drive chains, sporkets and rollers and make sure drive keys are in place ... #4 says to check that all idler roller turn freely and check for failed bearing.

Wish I was close ... we'd tear into it together and see if we could get her going.
 
   / Did a little hay last week ... #195  
I give up...broke a chain today after spending another hr looking for the problem. We made and agreement with a local rancher/farmer to cut our field on "half" for the rest of this year. I just don't have the time to mess with old equipment.....when I can afford it I am going to buy a new baler.

Wow, those are big chains to break. You can probably get some repair links.
Sometimes replacing the chains with new ones isn't really good if the sprocket teeth are worn a lot.
Mine has moon shaped hardwood blocks in a couple places to keep the long chain from flopping and to tension the pick-up chain. I made them too tight years ago and they got chain grooves worn in them..so had to make new ones.
Only have 3 chains and a belt as I recall. Looks like a geometric nightmare when running with the doors open to lube the chains before baling.
Which chain broke?
Was your eject door latching on both sides?
It would be helpful to know what caused your problem so the rest of us can check to see if we might be developing the same.
 
   / Did a little hay last week ... #196  
Blue, #3 is out too...they were all functioning fine so it has to be #4 unless it's a drive key.

Sorry, I didn't shoot a pic. It's the longest chain that runs up to the top roller, then all the way back down and we noticed it already has two master links in it next to each other, so some other poor sap has repaired this same chain. I swear I kept feeling a "drag" on the tractor that was new, so I suspect that there is a roller bearing frozen or almost frozen somewhere.

Pacer, the door latch on the starboard side had some hay stuck in it and it was not latching. I fixed that before heading out to the field. I also sharpened the scraper/cutter knife on the central idler roller...looked like that had never been done.Yep, 3 chains and a belt on the 530.

I think I am just going to sit back and let these guys cut our hay the rest of this year. After we get the house re-financed in a few months I am going NEW 4x4 Baler shopping. I think I want a soft core...New Idea or Krone. I know I will never get my money out of a new baler, but I refuse to scurry around on the ground in the heat, covered in grass/seeds/grease cussing like a sailor trying to keep a 25 year old baler functioning...life is way too short.

Anyway, I just went out and set the bales in rows....the 11-ish ac turned out 76 4x4 bales....not bad eh?
 
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the 11-ish ac turned out 76 4x4 bales....not bad eh?

Pretty darn good ... In my area you forgot laying around on the ground with chiggers and ticks !!!!
 
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Looks healthy!, now if you can keep the hogs out of it!

This pasture has field fence all the way around,with a 100lbs pitbull on watch:D The two hogs I got were on the outside of the fence about 30yrds the other day but they didnt make it out are place:laughing:
 
   / Did a little hay last week ... #200  
Blue, #3 is out too...they were all functioning fine so it has to be #4 unless it's a drive key.

Sorry, I didn't shoot a pic. It's the longest chain that runs up to the top roller, then all the way back down and we noticed it already has two master links in it next to each other, so some other poor sap has repaired this same chain. I swear I kept feeling a "drag" on the tractor that was new, so I suspect that there is a roller bearing frozen or almost frozen somewhere.

Pacer, the door latch on the starboard side had some hay stuck in it and it was not latching. I fixed that before heading out to the field. I also sharpened the scraper/cutter knife on the central idler roller...looked like that had never been done.Yep, 3 chains and a belt on the 530.

I think I am just going to sit back and let these guys cut our hay the rest of this year. After we get the house re-financed in a few months I am going NEW 4x4 Baler shopping. I think I want a soft core...New Idea or Krone. I know I will never get my money out of a new baler, but I refuse to scurry around on the ground in the heat, covered in grass/seeds/grease cussing like a sailor trying to keep a 25 year old baler functioning...life is way too short.

Anyway, I just went out and set the bales in rows....the 11-ish ac turned out 76 4x4 bales....not bad eh?

Are you saying your baler is a 530?
Not quite a 4x4 if so, but what the hay:laughing:... They are 39" wide by a maximum of 54" diameter. That's about 51 cu'
A 4'x4'x4' volume is 64 cu' which is about 1.25 bigger than the 530 can make.
The 530 bale is estimated to be 550 pds maximum.
That's what really makes them nice for horse folks that don't have tractors with spears or FEL that buy hay. They can roll them pretty easy off a pick up to where they want them in their horse barns and stand them up on a pallet for unwrapping and feeding with no more loss than rectangular bales.
I'm not sure, but I think Blue River is doing 1,000 or even 2,000 pound average bales primarily for cattle.
The long chain you are talking about drives the forming belts so they are not running anymore when you engage the PTO, right?
Usually if one of the idler rollers for them gets frozen the belts keep on turning
but squeal, not break the chain.
There are a couple pins that hang back at the ejection door. If you raise the door all the way up there is a hole on each side that you can put the pins in and then lower the back door. That takes all the tension off the forming belts so you can replace a torn belt or lace. It also lets you hand turn all the idler rollers to see if they are stuck.
I'm saying this from memory, so check your book for details.
When you were watching the chains before the long one broke was there a lot of slop in it, so it looked like it wanted to jump ahead of one of the sprockets? I can't imagine that chain breaking from a stuck idler roller under the forming belts. Sometimes 2 master links are used to make the length come out right when they were manufactured.
When you have the tension off the belts you might take a piece of board and
try to wiggle the big drive shaft across the top and check the bearing on the other side at the same time.
It would be a shame to buy a new baler ( wait till you see the prices ) if you can fix this one for a few bucks or even a few hundred. It will probably outlast the newer ones. Unless you have your heart set on a new baler;)
Ron
 

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