Did anyone look at a Kubota MX5100HST and choose Deere instead?

[JD755]

I have a 5100 HST and its great, not sure about the JD tractors but the 5100 HST has great adjustable cruise control and 3 speed HST. I like the foot petal its great for loading work and i never use the brake pedals, but I do have two feet so i cant see why it would be an issue. My father in-law has a JD 955 HST that's older 90's and I cant stand the cruise control mowing really sucks. I liked the m series over the l series since it felt more like a real tractor and has bigger tires. good luck

I completely agree the mechanical cruise control on the JD x55 tractors is very crude and not very usable. I have commented on that before. Of course later model tractors from all the manufacturers have electronic control cruise that works much better than the old lever and ratchet.

 

[art]

Glad you are pleased with your Kubota, but I still have one question. Tractor manufacturers try to make them comfortable and easy to use. The term ergonomically correct comes to mind. I can't understand why any manufacturer would make you cross your leg over to use split brakes unless there were some very good reason for it. Safety, comfort, ease of use, something. I've not been able to think of a reason. My tractor curiosity makes me ask if someone can provide a good useful reason for the right side split brakes.

The right side brakes are like 90% of other tractors built!!!!! How many bigger tractors have left hand brakes?????

As a dealer selling both styles as well as many ag tractors it is to my benifit as well as employees for job security that we sell them so that people can use the brakes to steer. It allows the fronts to slide into more permenent things so that they damage rims, break the beads on the tires as well as break the lower spindle housings causing larger repair bills from unsupecting users. I love them!!!!! My family loves them!!!!

 

[Deadman]

I "Drag" the brakes with my Left foot when i get close to something like a pond, or ravine. I use the brake to be sure the machine is holding back, and then inch forward with the hydro pedal as I stay on the brake lightly.

I also use the brakes all winter so I can turn. I drag the inside wheel all the time and make the JD spin around on a Dime.

I''m sure the Kubota brakes are ok, but just not as user friendly for the things I do with my JD 2520.

 

[leveled]

so on the newer JD you can change your ground speed with no pedal through cruise control?

 

[BleedGreen]

ok i just gotta ask,who in the world uses their brakes to turn a tractor.personally ive never used the brakes to turn in my 35yrs of driving a tractor off an on.as for the treadle pedel of the kubota youll love it.i dont even think using the tradel pedel is second nature to me.but 1 last thing to think about is JD doesnt make a hst in a 52hp tractor.an nor will their tractor lift what the MX5100HST will pre the salesmen.this info is not off the cuff as i was talking to the JD dealer as i was finalizing the deal on the kubota.

There are many, many people, all over the world that use steering brakes. Daily.

JD makes an HST (eHydro) in 43, 48, 60 and 66 horsepower variants. The 4320 (48hp) runs at 100 less RPM to get it's rated HP, has almost 3 gpm more hydraulic flow and lifts almost 200# more (at 24" behind) at the 3-Point then does the MX5100 from Kubota. In case you were referring to loader lift, the JD 400X loader lifts 2368# to 112.8" high while the LA844 lifts 2443# to 110.7" high - 75# less, but 2" higher. A virtual tie, in my book.

The simplest answer I can give in regards to steering brakes on the right or left side is this: JD does not have a clutch pedal on their HST models, therefore the left side is available for split brakes which can be used while also using the HST pedals on the right. Kubota has a clutch on their HST models which is on the left side therefore the brakes go on the right side along with the HST pedals. If we go to a gear unit, everyone has the clutch on the left and the brakes on the right. The bigger question (to me at least) is why Kubota even needs a clutch on an HST unit?

 

[art]

There are many, many people, all over the world that use steering brakes. Daily.



The simplest answer I can give in regards to steering brakes on the right or left side is this: JD does not have a clutch pedal on their HST models, therefore the left side is available for split brakes which can be used while also using the HST pedals on the right. Kubota has a clutch on their HST models which is on the left side therefore the brakes go on the right side along with the HST pedals. If we go to a gear unit, everyone has the clutch on the left and the brakes on the right. The bigger question (to me at least) is why Kubota even needs a clutch on an HST unit?

So that when it's twenty degrees below zero they can start on there own with out a block heater so they can clean their neighbors driveway because he forgot to plug in his deere.

 

[DieselnHooters]

when I bought my MX5000 a few years ago, it was considered an "economy'' tractor, gear shift, analog gauges, no OEM cab available etc..a bare bone machine

the comparable JD at that time was the 990, I do not know if the 990 is still part of the lineup

although the MX is now offered with HST as an option it is still an economy model as I understand it, so maybe the comparisons dont stand here ?

 

[Bswope]

Note, I clearly stated my reasons and made no claims JD were unsafe.

For the record, I don't cross over to use my brakes and from what I understand people only do this for steering, not general use.

Just curious why, if brakes on the left are "better/safer" why John Deere has them on the right on their gear tractors with the clutch on the right. How many cars or trucks have brakes on the left.

What "makes sense" to one doesn't make sense to all. If there was one "right way", they would all be built the same way. That is why I recommend anyone looking to buy a new tractor to look at all makes to see which one fits them best.

Is it your contention that Kubota designers and owners are just too stupid to know any better?

I am done; these "discussions" never end well.

Hey Triple,
Basically the only reason I cross my leg over is because its like second nature to me, all the backhoe's we have at work have the brake pedals right under the steering wheel so I use my left foot to operate the split brakes and use the right foot to operate the throttle pedal. When I jumped up the the tractor I have now I realized the Kubota configuration was best for me and have plenty of room to use my left foot when I need to steer with the brakes.
Most farm tractors (if not all) have the brakes on the right side of the machine so there has to be something to it.
Before I even thought about a Kubota I was DIE HARD JD and just thought the brakes on the left was the only way to go untill I test drove a Kubota L series tractor and quickly realized it wasnt that big of a deal and actually felt more comfortable to me.

Triple im with you on this subject.....:thumbsup:

Discussions like this never do end well but in the end it just comes down to how comfortable you are on each tractor you test drive!

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

I love jumping in the middle of these brake pedal threads cuz they make me almost fall out of my chair laughing. I'm not as bashful as some. I just like stirring the pot and making sure that the rookies understand there is more to this than just saying "I don't ever need/use that." The lengths that orange owners will go to make themselves feel better about their HST machines. I almost bought orange. I would still own an orange tractor, just not HST. I had no idea how important using brakes to help steer can be. They are extremely important to me on a CUT. Not so much on a utility size but still useful in slippery conditions. First off, I don't want to look like a sissy doing the hokey pokey trying to cross my leg over to brake when I don't think orange intended you to be doing that. 2nd, even in 4WD I find myself using brakes to help steer in muddy tight situations.

Yes, I got up on the wrong side of the bed this AM and I have a back ache, and I went and paid my property taxes today. So, if this offends any of you, I'm apologizing in advance. Sorry.

 

[Deadman]

I wonder if they mount the seats sideways on the Orange ones, so you can sit comfortably as you sit sideways on your tractor all day reaching for the brake pedal! :laughing: