Did you know Roundup Ready sweet corn is now available?

   / Did you know Roundup Ready sweet corn is now available? #111  
Yes, GMOs have been around many years, but I'm aware of no long term "studies." We are just guinea pigs right now.

For widespread use and consumption of GM foods, it seems 1995 would be a good starting point, or about 18 years. And surely the exposure over the past 5 of those 18 years is much higher than in 1995. Genetic issues may not even show up until a following generation is born, and cancers can take a long time to develop. Also consider the genetic tendencies in various diseases such as sickle cell anemia. All humans are not equal "guinea pigs" even.

Genetically modified food - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Scientists first discovered that DNA can transfer between organisms in 1946.[12] The first genetically modified plant was produced in 1983, using an antibiotic-resistant tobacco plant. In 1994, the transgenic Flavr Savr tomato was approved by the FDA for marketing in the US - the modification allowed the tomato to delay ripening after picking.[2] In the early 1990s, recombinant chymosin was approved for use in several countries, replacing rennet in cheese-making.[13] In the US in 1995, the following transgenic crops received marketing approval: canola with modified oil composition (Calgene), Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) corn/maize (Ciba-Geigy), cotton resistant to the herbicide bromoxynil (Calgene), Bt cotton (Monsanto), Bt potatoes (Monsanto), soybeans resistant to the herbicide glyphosate (Monsanto), virus-resistant squash (Monsanto-Asgrow), and additional delayed ripening tomatoes (DNAP, Zeneca/Peto, and Monsanto). In 2000, with the creation of golden rice, scientists genetically modified food to increase its nutrient value for the first time. As of 2011, the U.S. leads a list of multiple countries in the production of GM crops, and 25 GM crops had received regulatory approval to be grown commercially. As of 2013, roughly 85% of corn, 91% of soybeans, and 88% of cotton produced in the United States are genetically modified.
 
   / Did you know Roundup Ready sweet corn is now available? #112  
Wow the first 13 years!

Check this out

The Organic Center Critical Issue Report Page
November 2009 The First Thirteen Years

http://www.organic-center.org/reportfiles/GE13YearsReport.pdf

The 69 page report details RR technology, weed resistance, Bt toxins and gene stacking development.


This has to be one of the most extensive compilations I have seen in one place.

Probably just one of those inconclusive studys that you always hear about :rolleyes:



Slightly dated it is 4 years old now

I can hardly wait for the sequel


Just some quick excerpts....

"This report explores the impact of the adoption of genetically engineered (GE) corn, soybean, and cotton on pesticide use in the United States, drawing principally on data from the United States Department of Agriculture. The most striking finding is that GE crops have been responsible for an increase of 383 million pounds of herbicide use in the U.S. over the first 13 years of commercial use of GE crops"


"This dramatic increase in the volume of herbicides applied swamps the decrease in insecticide use attributable to GE corn and cotton, making the overall chemical footprint of todays GE crops decidedly negative. The report identifies, and discusses in detail, the primary cause of the increase -- the emergence of herbicide-resistant weeds."

"In the 1996 Consumers Union book Pest Management at the Crossroads "special caution" in managing GE crops was highlighted. After discussing the possibility that gene flow could create super HT weeds, the report warns that more widespread concern with herbicide tolerant plants is the likelihood they will accelerate the emergence of resistant weed species"

"Glyphosate was first introduced in 1974, and for the next 22 years there were no confirmed reports of GR weeds. The vast majority of GR weed populations have emerged in RR cropping systems since the year 2000. Beginning in the year 2000 in Delaware, GR marestail (horseweed) rapidly emerged in RR soybeans and cotton in the East and South. Less than a decade later, GR biotypes of nine species are now found in the U.S., and infest millions of acres of cropland in at least 22 states."

"The sheer scope of introduction of GR crops has fostered such unprecedented reliance on a single chemical for weed control that one leading one expert has remarked that glyphosate is as important to world agriculture as penicillin is to human health." This extreme reliance makes the threat of GR weeds far more menacing than herbicide-resistant weeds of the past. Unless steps are taken to break the underlying ecological conditions favoring the selection and spread of resistant weeds, this vicious circle will grind through the list of registered herbicide products until there are no longer any economically viable herbicide-based options."


Resistance Management Still Key in Sustaining Bt Crop Efficacy

"The industry has also asked for reduced resistance management requirements for corn hybrids expressing Bt for control of the CRW, an insect notorious for its ability to develop resistance. "

"Scientists convened by the EPA to assess future CRW resistance management plans questioned the science supporting such requests by industry"


"Bt liquid sprays are applied only when and as needed, consistent with the core principles of IPM.

"Bt plants, however, produce the toxin continuously during the growing season, not just when needed, and in nearly all plant tissues, not just where the toxins are needed to control attacking insects. In a year with low pest pressure, farmers can decide not to spray insecticides on a corn field, but they cannot stop Bt hybrids from manufacturing Bt toxins in nearly all plant cells."

"Moreover, from a food safety perspective, Bt toxins in liquid sprays break down relatively quickly in the field when exposed to sunlight and hence do not end up in the harvested portion of crops. Bt toxins in GE plants are inside plant cells, including the cells of the harvested portion of the crop fed to animals or consumed by people."


Stacking...

"Understood Risks here has been virtually no independent field research on the ecological and food safety implications when widely planted Bt corn varieties are simultaneously expressing two, three, or six Bt toxins. Current USDA and EPA approvals are based on the assumption that multiple genes producing different Bt toxins in corn plants will operate exactly as they do in varieties engineered to produce just a single Bt toxin."
 
   / Did you know Roundup Ready sweet corn is now available? #113  
"Glyphosate was first introduced in 1974, and for the next 22 years there were no confirmed reports of GR weeds. The vast majority of GR weed populations have emerged in RR cropping systems since the year 2000. Beginning in the year 2000 in Delaware, GR marestail (horseweed) rapidly emerged in RR soybeans and cotton in the East and South. Less than a decade later, GR biotypes of nine species are now found in the U.S., and infest millions of acres of cropland in at least 22 states."

"The sheer scope of introduction of GR crops has fostered such unprecedented reliance on a single chemical for weed control that one leading one expert has remarked that glyphosate is as important to world agriculture as penicillin is to human health." This extreme reliance makes the threat of GR weeds far more menacing than herbicide-resistant weeds of the past. Unless steps are taken to break the underlying ecological conditions favoring the selection and spread of resistant weeds, this vicious circle will grind through the list of registered herbicide products until there are no longer any economically viable herbicide-based options."


I find these 2 quotes most interesting. Perhaps the weeds will self-mutilate faster than the !@#$%^&* scientists work and Roundup will be useless. Then again, they'll probably just come up with something else to replace it and lie to us it's perfectly safe also
 
   / Did you know Roundup Ready sweet corn is now available? #114  
I find these 2 quotes most interesting. Perhaps the weeds will self-mutilate faster than the !@#$%^&* scientists work and Roundup will be useless. Then again, they'll probably just come up with something else to replace it and lie to us it's perfectly safe also

I'd put money that your last line is correct!
 
   / Did you know Roundup Ready sweet corn is now available? #115  
Informative interview on Yahoo today in which Michael Pollen describes the playing field and the ties between the increase in obesity and Type 2 diabeties, Health care costs, HFCS, GM products, Monsanto, Ag subsidies, food manufacturers, corporate profits, Ag gag laws, consumer awareness, food transparency, and truth in labeling Michael Pollan: Genetically Modified Foods Offer Consumers nothing


This all reminds me of them Bob Dylan song lyrics...

THE TIMES THEY ARE A CHANGIN
 
   / Did you know Roundup Ready sweet corn is now available? #116  
I did a little experiment with the impetus from this thread. As an alternative to grain flour, I made 2.5 loaves of a banana bread made with almond,tapioca and pecan flour. There is vanilla and honey in it as well as fig chunks and olive oil. Anybody care to guess what this cost me for the 2.5 loaves? The cost was so prohibitive as to make this a one off trial. Too bad because not only was it made with organic stuff, it was so freakin delicious I could have eaten all of it in one sitting instead of the three it took me.
 
   / Did you know Roundup Ready sweet corn is now available? #117  
Wow thats pretty exotic :)

Just a guess probably $10-$12.00 a loaf after buying all those ingredients.
Maybe even more :D

There is nearby dairy farm store to me I like to shop at which produces its own meats and cheeses, market butter and other local sourced products plus run a bakery and grind their own flour. They produce a Oatmeal Sunflower bread that I find just awesome and most of the breads sell for around $5-$6.00 a loaf.

I've also switched to an organic whole wheat flour for my few simple baking and cooking needs. And I use olive oil too. Last fall I got to market local honey for my neighbor, people just love that.

Keeping with this GMO/RR stuff I see MON 71800 is Monsanto's foray into transgenic wheat production. According to Wiki its been taken off of the market in the USA for lack of acceptance both with farmers and consumers alike.
 
   / Did you know Roundup Ready sweet corn is now available? #118  
Wow thats pretty exotic :)

Just a guess probably $10-$12.00 a loaf after buying all those ingredients.
Maybe even more :D

There is nearby dairy farm store to me I like to shop at which produces its own meats and cheeses, market butter and other local sourced products plus run a bakery and grind their own flour. They produce a Oatmeal Sunflower bread that I find just awesome and most of the breads sell for around $5-$6.00 a loaf.

I've also switched to an organic whole wheat flour for my few simple baking and cooking needs. And I use olive oil too. Last fall I got to market local honey for my neighbor, people just love that.

Keeping with this GMO/RR stuff I see MON 71800 is Monsanto's foray into transgenic wheat production. According to Wiki its been taken off of the market in the USA for lack of acceptance both with farmers and consumers alike.

You are fortunate to have a store like that near you. i'd like to think people will be clamoring for more and more real food as time goes by and the type of store you have will proliferate. The loaves cost $47. We have Whole Foods and Trader Joe's. Whole Foods however acts like its a boutique shopping experience with prices to match. Speaking of chemical company shenanigans and how they metastasize to government. Fluoridation of water sources throughout the country in the 50's had nothing to do with care for our teeth as they wanted us to believe. It was more for getting rid of a by product chemical while still making money for the chemical corps'.
 
   / Did you know Roundup Ready sweet corn is now available? #119  
We have a near-by dairy farm store. They sell their own processed milk, butter, baked goods, some meats, etc. They sell at farmer's markets and have the on-farm store. They are on US RT 2, so good local traffic.

They also sell some food and baked goods from other local producers. I've tried some of the local cheeses but haven't found one I could say I liked yet. One I tried was labeled Baby Swiss, but it had a wang to it and wasn't ripe enough. I am used to the Baby Swiss from the Amish area around Millersburg, OH. That and some Trail Bologna would be worth a trip to Ohio. :laughing:

I also tried a frozen, unbaked cherry pie. That was not good. I think the cook left the thickener out of the cherry juice, and some of the cherries had turned brown at the stem end before being put in the pie.
 
   / Did you know Roundup Ready sweet corn is now available? #120  
You are fortunate to have a store like that near you. i'd like to think people will be clamoring for more and more real food as time goes by and the type of store you have will proliferate. The loaves cost $47. We have Whole Foods and Trader Joe's. Whole Foods however acts like its a boutique shopping experience with prices to match. Speaking of chemical company shenanigans and how they metastasize to government. Fluoridation of water sources throughout the country in the 50's had nothing to do with care for our teeth as they wanted us to believe. It was more for getting rid of a by product chemical while still making money for the chemical corps'.

$47 a loaf sounds a little steep, but if people paid the same for food as they did in 1920, a loaf of bread would cost about $15. The US government has had a cheap food policy for decades, and food prices have not inflated like everything else.

Whole Foods imports a lot of "organic" food from China, where the Chinese are free to stick an Organic lable on it without inspection or verification. I wouldn't eat it. I refuse to eat any food sourced in China, though some of it is probably safe.

If you think fluroridation doesn't prevent tooth decay, you should ask a dentist about it.
 

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