Diesel Additives

cp1969 · Oct 10, 2007

Here's a possible fly in the class-action suit ointment:

"Big Oil" does not set the blend ratios. They produce the #1 and #2 fuel oils...that is all. The station operator, distributor, or jobber as they are sometimes called, specifies the blend ratio. At that point, no one at Big Oil has any control over how much or how little #1 is in the mix.

But the larger problem, to me, is the notion that some corporation, or some industry, usually with the word Big in front of it, owes us trouble-free operation of vehicles that are prone to cold weather problems. As I see it, they do not. If you choose to operate a diesel in temperatures known to cause problems with the fuel, then you are operating at your own risk.

KICK · Oct 11, 2007

MikePA said:
And last winter, these different experts at every oil company decided to squeeze the last fraction of a cent profit out of their product by scrimping on anti-gel additive. So, no conspiracy, just an amazing coincidence.

the moon was full, Aries was in the house of Venus and all the planets lined up including UR ****, but it werent a conspiracy.

joerocker · Oct 11, 2007

cp1969 said:
Here's a possible fly in the class-action suit ointment:

"Big Oil" does not set the blend ratios. They produce the #1 and #2 fuel oils...that is all. The station operator, distributor, or jobber as they are sometimes called, specifies the blend ratio. At that point, no one at Big Oil has any control over how much or how little #1 is in the mix.

But the larger problem, to me, is the notion that some corporation, or some industry, usually with the word Big in front of it, owes us trouble-free operation of vehicles that are prone to cold weather problems. As I see it, they do not. If you choose to operate a diesel in temperatures known to cause problems with the fuel, then you are operating at your own risk.

So, what you're saying is...EVERYONE who buys a diesel KNOWS that it's going to be worthless in cold weather? That they should EXPECT it not to run part of each winter? Huh?!?

If I buy fuel from a station owned by a big name oil company...or with their name on it...you're darn tootin that I'll blame them if something goes wrong. And yes...if I pay them for fuel, I EXPECT it to work TROUBLE FREE all year long. Is there a disclaimer on the pump? "Warning--we're too cheap to make fuel that will work in cold weather...use at your own risk".

You guys MUST work for big oil...the protectionism is astounding! You make up excuses like I'm talking about your mother. You talk like if they're selling yak piss to us it's OK. You talk like they have no responsibility when thousands of motors jell up. I think they do. It's all for profit. They should start adding anti-jell in September or October...better yet, all year long...so that nobody has a jelling problem...EVER. What can it cost? A few cents a gallon? A part of a cent per gallon?