Diesel fuel and motor oil deck treatment

[clemsonfor]

A few years back we visited my inlaws who live in a very rural part of NC. The main road to their house is paved but DOT or the county had just resurfaced the road in a strange way. It looked like they had just dropped gravel on the road and the laid down a oil/tar base on top of the gravel. Can't remember what it was called though. We asked my FIL who is a retired DOT inspector. He knew of course but I can't remember what he said. The oil/tar was thicker than say motor oil yet thinner than roofing tar.

Later,
Dan

They still do this all over SC and NC, once you get out of one of those money capitals. I live in a small town, the road right in front of my house is chip n seal as is every other of the 3-5 roads in town. They do it on the highways as well. Works well for 3-6 years or longer maybe and then they repeat. The problem is that they cant sweep it all up and for the first weeks you dont want to follow to closely as you will get showered with rocks. First few days is like a dirt road with the dust and the first day or two its almost like driving a gravel road, it kind of loosey goosey on the rocks.

 

[stuckmotor]

They still do this all over SC and NC, once you get out of one of those money capitals. I live in a small town, the road right in front of my house is chip n seal as is every other of the 3-5 roads in town. They do it on the highways as well. Works well for 3-6 years or longer maybe and then they repeat. The problem is that they cant sweep it all up and for the first weeks you dont want to follow to closely as you will get showered with rocks. First few days is like a dirt road with the dust and the first day or two its almost like driving a gravel road, it kind of loosey goosey on the rocks.

Dan,
I lived most of my life on one of those roads and thought it just poor quality asphalt. About 45 years ago they began resurfacing it with very course gravel. It took most of the joy out of riding a bicycle, on that road. The last resurface was done with much finer gravel and the new surface is glass like by comparison. This has puzzled me because the last resurface came after money got tight and I wouldn't have thought they could afford a finer crush.

 

[stuckmotor]

My farmer friends use it on wood fencing and another on the sides of a log home...

It was only a few years ago the county was still oiling gravel roads to keep down the dust...

Asphalt is oil and aggregate for the most part.

That's reminded me of Times Beach, where dioxin was in the oil. S/R 7-8: The Times Beach Story (Marilyn Leistner)

 

[dmccarty]

Dan that is "Chip & Seal" for normal names, it is done a lot in Ohio too, most of the rural roads are done this way with a tar/Oil/gravel mix they toss in some hot patch in the pot holes in spring, hit it with a roller and then spray down the oil/tar mix to about 1/4" thick with a chip truck dumping 1/2" of fine crushed lime stone. the stone sinks into the hot tar and sticks there. a good bit of it will remain loose on top and will work it's way to the sides and center and eventually off or into the road bed.

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Mark

Chip and seal sounds familiar as does what you describe. We have not been out there recently but the road was in still in good shape when we were out there last year. I have not seen this done in our county and you sure can't mistake it for anything else.

Later,
Dan

 

[dmccarty]

That's reminded me of Times Beach, where dioxin was in the oil. S/R 7-8: The Times Beach Story (Marilyn Leistner)

Ok, that somehow caused a memory to pop up. :laughing::laughing::laughing: A few decades ago there was a guy driving around our county on the gravel roads dumping chemical waste. It was either, or maybe both, dioxins or PCBs. I want to say it was PCBs from a transformer plant that used to be near RDU. The plant site is a mess from the chemicals that were just dumped on the ground and are now leaking into water ways that go through a very nice park and eventually Crabtree creek which in turn runs through Wake county and Raleigh before ending in the Neuse river.

Later,
Dan

 

[clemsonfor]

There was a guy somewhere near hear who my neighbor told me aboout. he was buying batteries from scrap yard adn was a middle man between the recycler of them. He was just dumping the batteries out in his back yaard/junk area. Then like rehauling them to ATL for the money you get after you dispose of the acid. I guess closer to a pure lead price? Supposedly there were thoudands of batteries or hundreds that they caught him with, not to mention how many he had already sold. I guess thats gonna be a superfund site.

 

[stuckmotor]

Ok, that somehow caused a memory to pop up. :laughing::laughing::laughing: A few decades ago there was a guy driving around our county on the gravel roads dumping chemical waste. It was either, or maybe both, dioxins or PCBs. I want to say it was PCBs from a transformer plant that used to be near RDU. The plant site is a mess from the chemicals that were just dumped on the ground and are now leaking into water ways that go through a very nice park and eventually Crabtree creek which in turn runs through Wake county and Raleigh before ending in the Neuse river.

Later,
Dan

I think I've heard people like that man called, 'midnight haulers'.
Stuck

 

[slow wrench]

Motor oil((new or used) and diesel will not dry any time soon,making it a bad choice for a deck.I did a deck and siding on a two story house with diesel and linseed oil (4 TO 1 RATIO),still very inexpensive way to go.I did the base framing of my green house ,where it touches the soil, with used motor oil.I would like to try non detergent motor oil(new) and diesel on fence boards or siding,half the price of linseed oil.The best store bought wood perservative products contain petroleum of some sort.

 

[crazyal]

Explain this to me?If I wipe my old motor oil with a hint of diesel fuel on the deck of my trailer(without getting it all over the ground & water) how am I harming anyone or the enviroment.Just curious?coobie

Some of the additives in motor oil are bad for the environment. The contain things like detergents to help keep the engine clean. As parts in the motor wears they get collected in the filter and the bottom of the oil pan. Metals like lead can normally be found in used oil. The fact that you have to reapply it means that it's not staying in the wood. If it's not staying in the wood then it has to be going into the ground. Is it bad, I guess some people will say anything going into the ground is bad.

My opinion is if you can afford to buy something designed to be used then that's what I would do.

 

[Larry Caldwell]

My astonishment is at people who won't use Roundup because it's a poison, then spray diesel on vegetation to kill it. Holy crap! The real reason not to use diesel on a deck is that it's poisonous as all ****.

Personally, I built my deck out of the recycled plastic and wood fiber planking. Pressure wash it once a year, no preservatives required. The patio is concrete, same treatement. I'm going to lay down some thinset and tile the area around the outdoor fireplace.