DIESEL PRICE DROP

[Charlie_in_TX]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Been driving around all day looking for cheap diesel - couldn't find any - will put a few hundred miles on tomorrow looking for cheap gas. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
penokee /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif )</font>
HAHAHA, I had to explain that one to my wife one time. We used to live in the stix (the suberbs came out to us). The local station was regularly $0.10 a gal higher. It took 13ist gallons to fill her car. I had to ask her 'just how far out of your way are you willing to drive to say you saved $1.30?'

 

[MJB]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( .... I even heard of the new water powered (actually Hydrogen) where 4 ounces of water would allow the vehicle to travel 100 miles. What a wonderful invention if they can make it safe. I have always said that water is where they will find then answer not Space. Since 75% of our bodys and this earth is made of water... the answer has to be in water for most all the ailments of our lives.

Jim

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There must be some zeros missing on that water deal. If we are talking about burning the hydrogen in an internal combustion engine, or running it through a fuel cell, the hydrogen contained in 4 ounces of water would not move your car 10 feet much less 100 miles. Hydrogen is about the worst fuel you could think of as far as energy density goes. The only way you could get that much energy out of 4 ouces of water would have to be some kind of nuclear fusion reaction.

 

[RobertN]

76 station, Cameron Park Calif today, $3.19/gal for diesel. What price did I post a couple days ago? $2.90 something?

 

[arthr31]

why is diesel more expensive than gasoline? aren't the refinery procedures less time and energy consuming? Therefore shouldn't it be less than gas? I know in other countries it is, but not in the US. My conspiracy radar tells me it is how all facets of the economy are falsely inflated because of the cost of diesel...

btw, cheapest around me is about 2.49/gal

 

[Jim57]

</font><font color="blue" class="small">( why is diesel more expensive than gasoline? aren't the refinery procedures less time and energy consuming? Therefore shouldn't it be less than gas? I know in other countries it is, but not in the US. My conspiracy radar tells me it is how all facets of the economy are falsely inflated because of the cost of diesel...

btw, cheapest around me is about 2.49/gal )</font>

It use to be hear in the US as well. Unfortunately they are trying to force the little guy out again in farming and the trucking industry. Unless we the people refuse to pay their high prices they will continue to rise. Just one day if everyone in America would not purchase fuel or petroleum products the prices would start dropping... try two days and see the bottom fall out. Unfortunately people will NOT stick together and make this happen. I would love for one time to see all Americans stop buying fuel for one week or atleast three days and see just what would happen.

Jim

 

[MikePA]

<font color="blue"> I know in other countries it is, but not in the US. </font>
What other countries?

A quick Google search foung that in the UK and Australia, diesel costs more than gasoline.

 

[johnday]

Jim; An interesting aside from what you said, at least to me. The cost of fuel, both gas and diesel, hasn't slowed down the soccer moms at all. I still try to drive the speedlimits, and at times I wonder if I'm going backwards instead of forward. Most of us remember back in the '70's and the oil embargo. IMO, if there is a shortage, for whatever reason, why aren't the speed limits lowered again? Maybe there really isn't a shortage, other than a shortage of intelligence in the general public, and greed in the oil companies? /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

I came in late on this thread, forgive me if I restated what others may have said. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

 

[Dargo]

johnday, I think fuel prices are starting to have an effect on the auto industry. I've made my living in and around the auto industry for the most part for the past 20 years or so. Only in the last couple of months are sales people starting to hear lots of serious questions about fuel economy. Only in the last month or so have the huge SUV's become slightly less desirable at the huge auto auctions. For the first time I can recall, customers are now asking about diesel cars again.

My soccer mom (wife) just got a new car for our anniversary earlier this week. I let her pick out any car she wanted. Really. She picked a Honda Civic EX that gets about 35 mpg. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif We have 5 kids (it's okay, I figured out where they were comming from - I got a P.O. box now /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif) and she has to constantly cart 4 of them around. My son who just turned 16 wouldn't drive the old pickup I bought him because he couldn't afford the gas when it only got 10 mpg. It went away and he now has a car that gets over 30 mpg.

Heck, I'm thinking about putting a restrictor plate on my tractor, and especially the gas powered Grasshopper I have. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif I have twin front mount Grasshopper ZTR mowers. However, 1 is diesel and 1 is gas. The gas model has 4 more hp, but is no stronger. Anyway, the gas model burns exactly twice the amount of fuel!! Gees, did I really save anything by spending $1500 less and settling with a gas unit?! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Technology is better, so I don't think we will all be forced to drive econoboxes, but I sure wouldn't hold onto my Ford Excursion V10 gas powered unit very long. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif You want to talk about a vehicle that has begin to take huge hits at the auction blocks! I think the real prospect of + $3.00 a gallon fuel and real life mpg in the single digits have pretty well doomed the gas powered version of that vehicle. On a side note; if you do own one, please don't take offense to my comments. Take them for their value. Decide if you plan to keep the thing until the wheels fall off and are willing to spend 40 to 50 cents per mile driven in fuel costs to drive it. A dealer trade magazine estimated the overall cost to drive a gas Excursion at nearly $7.00 per mile by the time you take into consideration fuel costs, maintenance costs, insurance costs, and depreciation. /forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif That sort of makes a taxi sound cheap!

 

[QueBota]

Interesting article in the Washington Post re: Gas vrs Diesel. You have to register to read the article, don't think I can paste copyrighted data here.
Wash Post Link to Article

Dave

 

[gsxr1100]

You can always find a way to secure the kids somehow! J But then what are the odds of everyone going somewhere at the same time? Plus teens do not want any more of the parents (at least most). /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I agree the Excursion and others smaller SUV are a joke in gas; but, don’t sell the f350 types short either. Plus they are still all over the roads (at least around here). My old man filled up his “exploder” last night (over $50 to fill). Now the F350 diesel people are about $65 to $70 for the fill ups. My friends go though almost that a week (just driving here). Add in the engine oil, tranny fluids, filter, fuel filter, low MPG, parts that are higher etc etc. I, me, personally would not own one again and you could not give me one. Now what the wifes does is her bag, not mine. She drive 7 miles to work.

I think overall the SUV and truck diesel sales are going to dive like the Titanic. When it cost me over $13 to fill my GSXR (bike), that is sad; but I like the almost 50 mpg. I am happy with my car too. Just filled up today at 5:49 am. 328 miles on 13.2 gallons=$31.XX in change. My old powerstroke would have been almost $50. That is over $80 in savings a month.