diesel prices

[Bigfoot62]

. . .Turn off Fox News.... and watch CNN once in awhile - you might learn something.

AKfish

AK,
EVERY journalist has a bias. (so do we) It's important to understand where a journalist (or news agency) is coming from.

Besides, FOX has the best looking women. :laughing:

 

[5030]

AK,
EVERY journalist has a bias. (so do we) It's important to understand where a journalist (or news agency) is coming from.

Besides, FOX has the best looking women. :laughing:

No way, 'Naked News' has the best women and they leave nothing to the imagination except what they are reporting.........................:laughing:

 

[5030]

I don't think we have to worry about trees here. We have more forest land now than in the 70's. Here's a link to give you an idea what we have. Tree Crops for Marginal Farmland: Loblolly Pine - Home - Virginia Cooperative Extension

Yes I have an idea how long it takes to grow a tree. In this area some pines are thinned at 7-9 years. Cut for pulpwood as early as 17 years. Saw logs from 20 on up. This area has been supporting 3 OSB mills since 1995. Those 3 mills produce between 4 and 5 million board ft. per day together. All the left overs from making OSB is either burned at the mill or the power plant/plants soon. We also get some wood from northen NC because it's within range of our mills. We also have a chipping mill that's used just for paper right in the middle of the OSB mills. Then we have 8 local saw mills that deal in hardwood and export hardwood. Almost forgot there's one plywood mill just over the border in NC. too. Most of the wood that goes to the power plant is what use to be left on the ground to rot from timber harvest. After most timber harvest now there's little to be done ahead of replant.

Once we lost tobacco we turned to trees and the industry soon followed. It may happen but it's a little hard to outsource an OSB mill.We use up to 130 loads of wood per day. I make my living at one of those mills. Been there 18 years and even in a hard hit home building market we're still running. We don't drill baby drill. We cut baby cut and plant baby plant.

Now, I understand perfectly, your obvious bias.

You related to Rachel Maddow per chance?

When an individual derives his or her income from any venue, no matter how egregious it appears to every one else, its perfectly legit.

You lost tobacco because of government intervention and you'll loose the tree farming for fuel eventually because of the same.

 

[5030]

You had alot to say... But, really WHAT did you say?

Everything's broken.. nothing really works the way it's supposed to.. everybody lies.. politicians and government are bad..

Guess we should all go eat worms!

And keep sending money and blood to the Middle East - that's the giant sucking sound you hear!

Of course, we could also hope that our towns, cities and neighborhoods were like China - no EPA there... with 160 kids sickened and dying from lead poisoning!

AKfish

Worms might be on the menu some day.......

All politicians aren't bad. just most. Money and power corrupts. Just look at Newt or Rommney or Santorum or for that matter 99% of the current Beltway Bureaucrats..... Problem is, you (and I) put them there..... So yes, wake up....

We'll send money and blood to the M.E., long after you and I are gone. We need to have 'something' going on somewhere. It's about being the 'United States' and big brother to the world.....that despises us......

The 'sucking sound' is really right here in your home town (and mine). Inane rules and regulations sucking the life out of this country and your wallet. All about protecting yourself from yourself because the gummit 'feels' that you can't think without their intervention and for the most part, that is a fair statement.

 

[tractorshopper]

I remember several times that gas station owners were charged and convicted of price gouging in my area and NC.. And I'll take issue with you on the meeting our VP back then had with the 6 oil executives that has been kept hidden from the public by executive privilege. In the days following that meeting is when fuel prices took off like a rocket. I think what happened in that meeting would answer a lot of questions.

You want lower fuel prices then break those 6 top oil companies up in to 50-60 companies and you'll have competition again in oil and gas. Until that happens nothing will change except it'll get higher. It's called price fixing and as of 2003 it's legal.

I know what's going on and what to expect for the most part. I lived in the 50's and on. We didn't waste back then because we didn't have money to waste. We raised what we needed. We didn't go to town every week or every month. We went to town 2 times a year. I never ate in a restaurant till I was 18 years old. I'd never seen or used a commode till I was in the 4th grade. Yes we had running water at school but the johnny house was in the woods. Keep the path shoveled out in the winter for when you had to go. I wore clothes with patches on them to school. I had my first slice of store bought bread in 1958.

So to add to your fear let me mention food. You think fuel is a problem? All those folks that were third world countries have money now. And BTW food is on the world market now too. Won't be long you'll be on here blaming someone for the high price of food. Iran just bought a large shipment of wheat from us. Yes the USA just sold wheat to Iran. Everything we have is for sale to the highest bidder. How much are you willing to pay? Or should you start preparing? You might want to buy some steaks while they're still cheap. After ethanol was mandated beef inventories in the US fell to 1952 levels. So soon you can cry your way to the grocery store about what it cost in fuel to get there and cry your way back home about what you just spent for that food. You might want to take some of the time you use on those links and use it running a garden tiller and get ready for canning season. The links you post may be right or may not be right. What I just told you is already here. Dig in man. When something worries me I do something about it.

You said it, government mandates driving up food prices and curtailing beef production and causing artificial demand in the market and ruining our small engines to boot. Government should step aside and let the economics fall where the people think they should be. This is what is wrong in Washington. People need to wake up and turn over our politicians until the message is received that we don't need the government interfering in every aspect of society and telling us what they think we need. I can make up my mind on my own thank you very much.

 

[Baby Grand]

Daily Show had it right last night. Everyone is having an election this year. US, Iran and Israel. So everyone is talking tough. Commodities traders hear this nonsense and go long. It's what they do.

 

[Jay4200]

You said it, government mandates driving up food prices and curtailing beef production and causing artificial demand in the market and ruining our small engines to boot. Government should step aside and let the economics fall where the people think they should be. This is what is wrong in Washington. People need to wake up and turn over our politicians until the message is received that we don't need the government interfering in every aspect of society and telling us what they think we need. I can make up my mind on my own thank you very much.

Nice conservative viewpoint. Unfortunately, there is a strong liberal contingent that wants to be coddled. If you strip away independence, you also remove personal responsibility, and that's what liberals want.

JayC

 

[AKfish]

Daily Show had it right last night. Everyone is having an election this year. US, Iran and Israel. So everyone is talking tough. Commodities traders hear this nonsense and go long. It's what they do.

Yep... read this morning that if the current "Hot Air" circulating the globe regarding war with Iran were to cool off that given world production and consumption - we'd have $80/barrel oil - not $125!

Individual has 30 years as an international oil consultant and maintains if world leaders would hold their tongues - and keep the speculators from driving the price ever upward - gas would drop by 50 cents a gallon overnight!

AKfish

 

[AKfish]

AK,
EVERY journalist has a bias. (so do we) It's important to understand where a journalist (or news agency) is coming from.

Besides, FOX has the best looking women. :laughing:

Agree on both counts! :laughing: Nonetheless, I don't have a great deal of patience (any more) with extreme viewpoints - from either direction!

I'm from the generation that had George McGovern and Barry Goldwater - in positions of authority - at the same time! They worked through their differences and came forward with policies that benefitted the Nation as a whole.

This business with Red states and Blue states is bullsh!t that serves no one; save for the Rush's and other's who have gotten obscenely rich.

Give me someone; anyone - who's willing to listen and work with folk's to craft a solution that; in the long run is for the best. In the short term - maybe we'll all squeal!

AKfish

 

[Charolais]

Now, I understand perfectly, your obvious bias.

You related to Rachel Maddow per chance?

When an individual derives his or her income from any venue, no matter how egregious it appears to every one else, its perfectly legit.

You lost tobacco because of government intervention and you'll loose the tree farming for fuel eventually because of the same.

I'm not related to her that I know of. If I am she'd be family like all the rest I have though.

Are you related to Michele Bachmann per chance? Always thought by what she said she was against everything and for nothing. I get that feeling about you too. I get that feeling about most folks that tell me without a doubt that somethings is going to happen in the future and I know they don't have that power to do so. I call it spreading the fear. Fear, anger and distrust of everything isn't healthy for anyone. I'd hate to go through life like that. When I see things changing and folks screaming to the top of their lungs about it and know there's no chance in changing back I do my best to adjust and keep moving forward. I don't like moving backward like some would like to take us. I've been there. I like the good new days instead of the good old days.

BTW we lost tobacco because of the public. The public as a whole doesn't like tobacco. Even in the tobacco states the public outcry was more than the support. So I changed my farming habits to keep up with change. Also went from working in textiles to wood products. Saw textiles were going away and I made a change. Each time I've made those changes it was for the better in the long run. I didn't sit down and cry , moan and groan about it. I did what I needed to do to keep up and make a decent living.

OK throw some more negative stuff at me. LOL I'm use to it.