Tires Diff between R1 and R4 tires?

[TripleR]

Amazing isn't it?? Some people are hard headed either way. I guarantee some have never run the other "bad design" they claim on their tractor. I currently have R-4's and never got stuck yet, therefore they are the best tire for ANY situation..... Not really, but they work for me. I've had both R-1 and R-4 tires and IMHO neither one shines as the best. My opinion is more time in the mud then get R-1, other than that get the R-4. I have never run turfs, but hear they are superior is the snow and lawns obviously. We have all conditions here too....from snow (measured in feet) sticky gray clay, sand, rock and gravel base, and swampy. Like I said I haven't had an issue with the current R-4's or the R-1's (different tractor), but you always need to use your head.:confused2:

Good points, in my opinion none are bad, some just tend to work better in different applications. We have Ags on all of our 2WD tractors as well as our M8540 and Industrials on our BX2660, JD2305 and L5030 and Case backhoe, on our MF375 we have turfs on the back and Ags on the front.

Unless I can avoid it when it is muddy the tractors stay parked, but when I was farming they were used in all types of conditions. We do work on ponds, so I have had all types in mud and as mentioned have been surprised at how well the Industrials did. My choice for mud is still Ags, but Industrials are far from useless and my Industrials will be replaced with another set just like them.

I would question why the vast majority of tires sold on CUT's is R-4's, It seems like the manufacturers have an opinion, and it speaks volumes

Kind of makes you wonder why Craigslist or others are not chocked full of R4 takeoffs from dissatisfied users doesn't it.

 

[k0ua]

Ok my turn, I have had R1 and I have R4 now, There is no "best" tire for all conditions. The questions that Newbies ask is "which tire should I buy". This is a very hard question to answer. We dont know what kind of ground conditions the Newbie is going to operate in, or what he wants to do with the tractor. If he is going to operate a CUT in an suburban setting, that usually means driving across his damp lawn. In that case he does not want R1 tires period! But the Newbie does not know that, and he needs to be informed that R4 tires are a good compromise, yes compromise for traction versus tearing up his lawn. Turfs are better on the Lawn, but might not be the best for loader work. Why do you think that the vast majority of CUTS are running R4 tires,? it is because they are a good compromise for most suburban owners of CUTS. Are R1 tires better in the mud? Of course they are. Why do you think they make them? They are best for pulling a plow, will offer the best traction in moist to wet soils, and probably snow as well. But most suburban owners of CUTS probably need R4 tires. As for the JD with the rotary cutter stuck in the mud with the R4 tires, I would ask "what in the He** was he doing there anyway" it was way too muddy to mow, where was he going? When it is that muddy, keep the tractor in the barn! We suburban owners do not have to operate our tractors to make a living, we just use them to maintain our property. So when the conditions are too bad to operate the tractor, keep it in the barn and watch TV instead! If you HAD to take the tractor down there at that time, then maybe R1 tires would have kept the tractor moving, maybe not. The one and only time I have gotten stuck in 18 years of tractor owning and operating, was with R1 tires. Stuck is defined as when you cannot get out with the tractor/loader itself. And you get off and do the walk of shame and ask the neighbor for help. The SUV and a chain, and a skillful neighbor got her out after I put her on the axle. Oh, and by the way R1's make excellant digging tools for an inexperienced user to dig his "way to china" real quick! So there you have my opinion, if you are a farmer or professional that has to get out in the soup, and or plow, you need R1 tires, if you are a suburban weekend warrior you need R4 or turf tires.
James K0UA

 

[Don87]

Such unnessecary sarcasm coming from a few on here over a tire design.
All places are not the same, every driveway or roadway is different.
What works at Roy's place(for example) won't work here 100% of the time, what works best here, is overkill at his place.
I've never had ags in my driveway, dunno what would happen.
R4's are limited with heavy snow, and icy conditions(which we had in febuary).
Turfs with chains, at my place.........I know will work.
Been doing it for 14 years now.

 

[Don87]

Ok my turn, I have had R1 and I have R4 now, There is no "best" tire for all conditions. The questions that Newbies ask is "which tire should I buy". This is a very hard question to answer. We dont know what kind of ground conditions the Newbie is going to operate in, or what he wants to do with the tractor. If he is going to operate a CUT in an suburban setting, that usually means driving across his damp lawn. In that case he does not want R1 tires period! But the Newbie does not know that, and he needs to be informed that R4 tires are a good compromise, yes compromise for traction versus tearing up his lawn. Turfs are better on the Lawn, but might not be the best for loader work. Why do you think that the vast majority of CUTS are running R4 tires,? it is because they are a good compromise for most suburban owners of CUTS. Are R1 tires better in the mud? Of course they are. Why do you think they make them? They are best for pulling a plow, will offer the best traction in moist to wet soils, and probably snow as well. But most suburban owners of CUTS probably need R4 tires. As for the JD with the rotary cutter stuck in the mud with the R4 tires, I would ask "what in the He** was he doing there anyway" it was way too muddy to mow, where was he going? When it is that muddy, keep the tractor in the barn! We suburban owners do not have to operate our tractors to make a living, we just use them to maintain our property. So when the conditions are too bad to operate the tractor, keep it in the barn and watch TV instead! If you HAD to take the tractor down there at that time, then maybe R1 tires would have kept the tractor moving, maybe not. The one and only time I have gotten stuck in 18 years of tractor owning and operating, was with R1 tires. Stuck is defined as when you cannot get out with the tractor/loader itself. And you get off and do the walk of shame and ask the neighbor for help. The SUV and a chain, and a skillful neighbor got her out after I put her on the axle. Oh, and by the way R1's make excellant digging tools for an inexperienced user to dig his "way to china" real quick! So there you have my opinion, if you are a farmer or professional that has to get out in the soup, and or plow, you need R1 tires, if you are a suburban weekend warrior you need R4 or turf tires.
James K0UA

Very well stated.

 

[Modn]

Very well stated.

I agree :thumbsup:

 

[wny770]

Well, 1st snowfall here last night. 10" of moderately wet snow. T1510 with loaded R-4's. I was worried after all the "posts", but I never used the four wheel drive. We'll see how they are when we get a real snowfall, but so far so good.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

A person needs to take an honest look at what they are going to be doing with the tractor MOST of the time.

If you're mainly mowing a lawn, then turf tires will most likely be your best bet, after all that's why their called Turf tires.

If you will be doing agriculture work most of the time, then more than likely Ag tires would be the best that you could have to get the most performance out of your tractor. Again there is a reason that they call them Ag tires.

If you're not doing mainly one or the other of the above, then R4s would likely be the best all around tire for you. Now of course there are always exceptions, but sort of like a utility tractor, one thing for many uses.

Just my opinion, and obviously others disagree. :2cents:

 

[troutsqueezer]

Alright, no one here has said it yet so I'll chime in:

R4's look better.

 

[Don87]

Alright, no one here has said it yet so I'll chime in:

R4's look better.

Oh, lord............now another heated debate. SEE what ya caused now:laughing:

 

[lilranch2001]

Alright, no one here has said it yet so I'll chime in:

R4's look better.

agreed :thumbsup: