Difference between CUT and UT

[Opti-Mist]

Utility = Chore Tractor, as we used to call them. The term "compact tractor" is equivalent to "compact car". In the beginning, compact tractors were just shorter, narrower and not as high as the typical small tractor of the day (early 1970's). It was simply a description of the little beast to distinguish it from the other tractors of that time. The term carried no other inherant information as to what it could be used for or anything else. It was simply a comparative descriptor.

 

[citytransplant]

Let me throw another variable in the mix ... 2 wheel versus 4 wheel drive.

Now everything that I know about tractors could fit in a teacup but aren't most utility tractors two wheel drive and conversely, all compacts 4WD?

 

[Opti-Mist]

Let me throw another variable in the mix ... 2 wheel versus 4 wheel drive.

Now everything that I know about tractors could fit in a teacup but aren't most utility tractors two wheel drive and conversely, all compacts 4WD?

Not a valid discriminator, and not universally true.

 

[DieselnHooters]

I thought CUT or UT referred to frame or chassis size, and less than 100 hp, with some 45-100 hp tractors being also considered Ag tractors.

The Kubota M and MX series are larger framed than the L series.
The Massey 1600s and 1500s are definitely smaller than the 400, 500, and 54xx series.

I will say the larger L series tractors (5030) and 1500s (1557, 1560) make me think UT. The clearest difference I've seen between tractors of similar dimensions that were sitting side-by-side, was the difference between a Kubota L5030 and MX5000. The 5030 was big, but the 5000 just looked heavier duty.

If I farmed, I definitely would have what I consider an Ag or UT.

That's just my 2 cents.

My MX5000 is called a "utility special", thats what the decal reads on the hood LOL...I still see it as a compact though. Its got the beefy front end of a utility but the back end is definitely one of a larger compact even with the Cat II 3 pts.

I went thru many "old irons " before I got to this one, had a 1960 IH B275 with only 33Pto Hp which weighed over 2 tons also a McCormick W4 which weighed even more with less HP.

A naked MX is under 4000 lbs and I have a hard time seeing someone earning a living farming with such a unit.

IMO the M5040 is the smallest Kubota utility tractor.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

So this is a CUT to some of you. All I ever do is look at it and maybe move it once in awhile. I don't know, 16k pounds seems a bit big for a CUT, but if you say so.

And when the day does come and we start using it, the tractor magically becomes a utility tractor, amazing, simply amazing.

 

[CDsdad]

So this is a CUT to some of you. All I ever do is look at it and maybe move it once in awhile. I don't know, 16k pounds seems a bit big for a CUT, but if you say so.

And when the day does come and we start using it, the tractor magically becomes a utility tractor, amazing, simply amazing.

What?

 

[dirt ditch]

So this is a CUT to some of you. All I ever do is look at it and maybe move it once in awhile. I don't know, 16k pounds seems a bit big for a CUT, but if you say so.

And when the day does come and we start using it, the tractor magically becomes a utility tractor, amazing, simply amazing.

What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet

From Shakespeare's Romeo and Juliet, 1594

Meaning: What matters is what something is, not what it is called.
(Phrases.org)

 

[pitt_md]

I have a 50hp Kubota MX5000 that they market as a utility tractor. I have noticed that some of the larger Grand L's by kubota look like they have as big of a frame but are sold as CUT's.

 

[tessiers]

I'm willing to bet that old girl has seen her fair share of dragging around some farm implement.

I think this is a mute point at any rate because It's all about the glitter.

My tractor works and I don't care if you want to call it a lawn tractor. I would go out on a limb and say my 790 works as hard as any out there, kind of like the old 8N's out there. The large tractors get used a lot and hard too but day in and day out on most farms I have worked at there is a smaller more agile tractor that would be considered the utility tractor.

 

[Opti-Mist]

Massey used to make an honest-to-gosh Four Wheel Drive tractor in the '40s that would be "compact" by today's standards. The one we had was named "Little Monster". It was one tough "little" tractor.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

I'm willing to bet that old girl has seen her fair share of dragging around some farm implement.

I think this is a mute point at any rate because It's all about the glitter.

My tractor works and I don't care if you want to call it a lawn tractor. I would go out on a limb and say my 790 works as hard as any out there, kind of like the old 8N's out there. The large tractors get used a lot and hard too but day in and day out on most farms I have worked at there is a smaller more agile tractor that would be considered the utility tractor.

You are correct, it doesn't really make any difference what someone wants to call your tractor, which happens to be a CUT in my book. The OP was asking what was the difference between a Compact Utility Tractor and a Utility Tractor. He wants to think that his 4000lb tractor is a Utility Tractor and not a Compact Utility Tractor. He is probably new to tractors and is thinking that his tractor is pretty big.

It is fairly clear that different manufacturers will call their machines CUT and UT based on their own line of tractors. As an example, John Deere calls their 5000 series a CUT. That can be a machine over 7000lbs and is still considered a Compact (according to JD website). While Massey is calling their MF1660 a Compact at a little over 4000lbs. Obviously different sized machines, but still considered Compact by their respective manufacturers. Others look to vary as to their overall lineup.

So it looks to me that there is no clear cut line, weight or horse power as to what determines a CUT or a UT.

 

[Farmwithjunk]

You are correct, it doesn't really make any difference what someone wants to call your tractor, which happens to be a CUT in my book. The OP was asking what was the difference between a Compact Utility Tractor and a Utility Tractor. He wants to think that his 4000lb tractor is a Utility Tractor and not a Compact Utility Tractor. He is probably new to tractors and is thinking that his tractor is pretty big.

It is fairly clear that different manufacturers will call their machines CUT and UT based on their own line of tractors. As an example, John Deere calls their 5000 series a CUT. That can be a machine over 7000lbs and is still considered a Compact (according to JD website). While Massey is calling their MF1660 a Compact at a little over 4000lbs. Obviously different sized machines, but still considered Compact by their respective manufacturers. Others look to vary as to their overall lineup.

So it looks to me that there is no clear cut line, weight or horse power as to what determines a CUT or a UT.

Again, it goes back to USE. It's all a matter of semantics. The hot selling, trendy tractors of today are "compacts". These very same tractors would in many cases have been called a utility tractor back in the day. I'd think "utility" would mean nimble, versatile, efficient, and yet CAPABLE. In that regard, many larger tractors today would also fit under the heading of utility tractor..... And many all the smaller ones too. Compact tractor is a phrase that's came into vogue in recent years. Manufacturers are quick to latch on to market trends that help make their products popular. They can call 'em compacts, utilities, or whatever they so desire. In my book, a tractor is a tractor is a tractor.

IMHO, the vast majority of todays compacts ARE utility tractors in accordance with MY definition of utility.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Again, it goes back to USE. It's all a matter of semantics. The hot selling, trendy tractors of today are "compacts". These very same tractors would in many cases have been called a utility tractor back in the day. I'd think "utility" would mean nimble, versatile, efficient, and yet CAPABLE. In that regard, many larger tractors today would also fit under the heading of utility tractor..... And many all the smaller ones too. Compact tractor is a phrase that's came into vogue in recent years. Manufacturers are quick to latch on to market trends that help make their products popular. They can call 'em compacts, utilities, or whatever they so desire. In my book, a tractor is a tractor is a tractor.

IMHO, the vast majority of todays compacts ARE utility tractors in accordance with MY definition of utility.

No argument from me, only showing how definitions change over the years with new advents.

 

[greggh]

I think that those tractors that are used are utility tractors. Those that are not used are usedless.

 

[Hematite]

I think that those tractors that are used are utility tractors. Those that are not used are usedless.

Bawhahahahaha!!!!! Good one!