Traction digs too well

[jcarlile]

my few acres are sandy and soft. my iseki tu 2100 i just bought with a hole in the trans front cover. took apart replaced the cover and now up and running. every where it seems to dig and get stuck. do i need turf tires? new to this so i dont know. i need input please...

 

[284 International]

What are you doing with the tractor when you "dig and get stuck?" If the ground is so soft that merely driving the tractor around gets you stuck, you probably won't be able to solve anything by changing the type of tire you have. If you're trying to pull an oversized implement, or too deeply, or turning too sharply, then you'll need to operate the machine differently. With a little more of an idea about what you're trying to do, we may be able to give more specific advice.

 

[jcarlile]

not pulling anything yet. plan on a small disc .but it seems just driving up a slight slope and i guess i'm turning to sharp it sounds like. my tractor has a gb loader on it and is 4x4.

 

[Beltman60]

pictures of tractor and what you're getting stuck in please

 

[Ilikeurtractor]

Sandy and soft acreage will likely require something with tracks to effectively pull ground-engaging implements. Even then it may not be that great.

 

[jcarlile]

. The ground is like powder sand

 

[284 International]

I don't think your front wheels are engaged when you're driving up that slope. It will also really help if you mount a box blade or other heavy item on the rear hitch to take weight off the front axle, so you won't sink in as deeply.

 

[Creamer]

Ground is certainly sandy! But still you should be able to drive over it without sinking although the FEL weight does cause a lot of pressure on those little front tires. Keeping the front end engaged and not turning short will certainly help keep the front from sinking in - it will always be trying to climb out. That's is especially true when pulling a trailer like the one shown which probably sinks pretty good itself.

 

[Ilikeurtractor]

Maybe the pictures don't represent it that well, but I would think that ground should be managable with your machine even pulling a small implement. By the time you start pulling an implement most of the demand will be on the rear tires and the fronts shouldn't be "plowing" as much if they are now. Are your front wheels turning freely? You might want to verify that just to know for sure as I experienced mechanical problems with one of my 4wd tractors that was causing one of the front wheels to not rotate correctly. You may also have to choose your routing so that you're only in the real sandy area while going downhill with the implement if possible. I recently backed a 1200 lb. single axle trailer up an incline that appeared to be steeper than what you have in similar soil with my TX1500 (smaller and lighter than yours). It wouldn't do it in 2wd but in 4wd it was fine. Slower wheel speeds may help some too.

 

[jcarlile]

i will try that out. should i jack up the tractor to see if tires move freely? and what implement do you think would be good to work my ground and my tractor would be able to handle? majority of the ground is sandy and a slight incline.

 

[Ilikeurtractor]

I would jack up one side of the tractor at a time and check that each front wheel spins freely. Attached is what I found in one of my front final drive assemblies. Between the broken boss and pinion the assembly would bind up as it turned causing most of the torque to be transferred to the other wheel and act like a brake on the broken one.
I would get a disk (if that's what you want - I'm not sure exactly what you intent to do with the ground after working it) that isn't much wider than your tractor if possible to keep the pulling forces minimized.

 

[jcarlile]

Thank you all for the tips. All new to me and still its fun

 

[jcarlile]

today i also found and tried the rear lock. the foot lever on the right side by my heal. seem to work better. but still conserns are there. i would not want to get a disc then get stuck alot. i'm learning

 

[stuckmotor]

Have you tried removing the loader to see if it's weight is causing the problems?

 

[jcarlile]

no. do you think that could be a problem

 

[Bladehauler]

I also have sandy land and my 47hp tractor can get stuck easily if I have it in 2 wheel drive and nothing on the back. the FEL puts a alot of weight on the front end . putting any heavy implement on the back will make a world of difference !!

on a side note you should be able to lift the front end up with the front end loader so you can check the front hubs.

 

[stuckmotor]

Yes. I think I'd either put some weight on the rear end or remove the loader to see if it helped. Which ever is easier and less expensive. It's surprising how much my new to me MF spins it's wheels with the loader on.

 

[stuckmotor]

Jcarlile,
When you get suck, do the front or the back wheels start spinning first?

 

[jcarlile]

the rear

 

[stuckmotor]

the rear

In that case, I still suspect too much weight on the front and not enough on the back.