Grading Disappointed with rear blade

   / Disappointed with rear blade #1  

rbarker

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BX 25
We got about 7" of heavy, wet snow on Sunday and the 60" rear blade on my BX2200 just wouldn't cut the mustard. It would manage about a strip and a quarter before it wouldn't push the snow back any further. I wound up clearing with the loader again which takes more time. I am pulling the blade facing forward with it angled at the sharpest angle off to the side. Am I doing something wrong or just expecting too much out of the blade? /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

The good news is the loader works fantastic and the tractor in 4WD low just doesn't get stuck! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Well, first, the blade is probably to big. I would use a 48 or 54 inch blade. Second, push the blade in reverse with the blade still in the forward direction and the blade angled to the side. Clear an area with your loader and then engage the snow using only about 1/2 the blade continuously moving the snow to one side only. That is what I did but I am not an expert on snow plowing for sure /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif. My 2410 will quickly push up a wall of snow and then just spin it's tires if I don't work from a cleared area pushing the snow further and further over to the side. I find backwards easier because the tires are in a cleared area and follow the path of the blade. Pulling forward would be more diffucult. Notice in this pic that I am clearing in reverse with the blade in the forward position. Notice the smooth path left for the little B2410. Yes, I am using the position control to slightly float the blade. JJ
 

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<font color="blue">Am I doing something wrong or just expecting too much out of the blade? </font>
Not to be a nitpicker /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif , but I assume it's the tractor that's having a problem pushing the snow and not the blade, right? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif How long is the strip you refer to? You might be asking too much of the tractor. With the first pass, you're plowing 7" of heavy wet snow. Since the blade is moving the snow over, with the second pass, you're trying to plow almost 14" of heavy wet snow. With the third pass, etc. Or have I musunderstood something? /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

I agree with Trescrow's advice plus I'd add rear wheel weights and/or load the tires. Adding rear wheel weights substantially improved the ability of my TC25D to push snow.
 
   / Disappointed with rear blade #4  
In times of much snow you may have to start from the outside and only roll one blade width at a time to the outside.

Egon
 
   / Disappointed with rear blade #5  
When and if your budget will allow it buy a snow blower. You will never regret it. even if you have other homes nearby the chute can be adjusted so as not to cause any damage. Get a front mount, I love mine. I plowed snow for 30 years and nothing campares with a blower.
 
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rbarker,

If you got the same type of snow we got here, then I share your problem. I have a Woods HBL-72 (500+ lbs.) behind my B2910 with chains and I struggled with the blade. I, too, ended using the loader to move a good part of the snow and then scraped the driveway with the blade. I do have one disadvantage in that I usually have to work up-hill to clear my driveway.

The snow we got was really "rare". It wasn't wet. Rather, it was like a steamroller had compressed it. It was very, very dense and heavy. Trying to pull with the blade reversed just caused the blade to ride up on the snow. We only had about 4" of it. I moved the previous weeks' 15" snowfall much more easily.

As regards to the snowblower someone suggested, I do have a rear mount Woods SS60, but I haven't put it on yet. (Don't ask why, I just haven't gotten around to it yet.) Anyway, I think that with this type of snow that we got it might have also just ridden up on the snow like the reversed blade did. All of the driveways in our development that were "snowblown" all still have compacted snow on them.

It was a learning experience, that's for sure. The NEXT big snow we get I'll have the blower on. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

Anyway, I was still able to clear our whole driveway without touching a shovel, which is great. It was nice using "mental muscle" to figure out how to move the snow rather than the ailing and aging back muscles. If only I could get the Kubota to climb steps so I could do the sidewalks /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

~Rick
 
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Bob,

Don't feel bad, My TC18 was having similar problems. I've got loaded rears (200#) each & chains on the back side. I was only able to make two backwards passes (~50 feet) with the 5' blade angled 30 degrees before I had to shovel the curl with the loader. The first pass was a "full bite" the second I only tried to move a half width.

The blade was acting like a rudder, the tractor would keep moving (love those chains) but the front end kept sliding around & I'd end up almost perpendicular to my intended direction of travel.

Be assured it isn't so much poor technique as it is a physics problem. The little machines (sub compacts & smaller compacts) don't push heavy snow easily. I'm getting closer every day to buying a blower. Trying to find one for the right price...
 
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Got to agree with Deerlope, my blower handles ice,snow, sand, rocks. By using the front mount, you can either float or pressure down. The pressure down mode would not allow the blower to ride up and over the snow. I usually use the float position and have not had a problem so far....know on wood!
 
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What tires are you using? I use a 60" and shove stright back (no angle) 75' with no problem. I have Ag's for winter and turfs for summer. Even with a huge heavy pile of snow it doesn't hint at stopping. Are you in low range? Try the diff lock if you start to slip (surely you are in 4WD). Load the loader with a bucket full of snow to get more traction. I just can't imagine the tractor getting stuck, I would think the snow would spill over the top first.
Good Luck
 
   / Disappointed with rear blade #10  
Hi...


Snowplowing with rear or front blade... try it keeping the ground speed up... kinda' on the fast side...
...might work better...


Dave...
 

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