disc harrow weight vs width

[tw30]

I've been looking on athens plows website and it seems like you can either get a wide disc that's light or a narrow disc that's heavy. Im looking at the model 66 disc 15'3" weighs 2600lbs

I want to know in unbroken ground how many more passes it would take then say their 187 model 14' that weighs 5700lbs

Im beating there's a significant price difference to. 3pt vs a transport.

 

[pjbci]

You really cant compare the 2. Ones a lightweight pulverizing disk, the other a heavy breaking disk. Kinda like comparing apples to oranges. Some soil conditions such as heavy grass sod and dry weather or hard packed soil on a cattle operation, the lightweight disk cannot make enough passes to equal the breaking disk performance. On the other hand, under ideal conditions it wouldnt make much difference. But who here always disk in ideal conditions. If your in the market for one, get yourself a mid range disk and dont look back.

 

[Kioti Tom]

You really cant compare the 2. Ones a lightweight pulverizing disk, the other a heavy breaking disk. Kinda like comparing apples to oranges. Some soil conditions such as heavy grass sod and dry weather or hard packed soil on a cattle operation, the lightweight disk cannot make enough passes to equal the breaking disk performance. On the other hand, under ideal conditions it wouldnt make much difference. But who here always disk in ideal conditions. If your in the market for one, get yourself a mid range disk and dont look back.

What he said :thumbsup:

 

[LastSTRAW]

Might I ask why you don't want to plow first and then use the lighter disk?

 

[Egon]

What size tractor will you be using?

 

[tw30]

Ford tw30. Has 143 dbhp. Couldn't a ripper be used on virgin soil to loosen it or would it be better to use a mold boas to losses the soil. Rippers are easier to find locally than a plough and cost less . I could robably pull a 3 shank ripper. I know I could pull a 20ft disc. But I figure a 14-15ft would be more ideal. Puts less load on the tractor and easier to transport

 

[pjbci]

A v-ripper or chisel plow is what we use for deep tillage and to loosen soil. Your tractor will handle a 20ft disk easy. It will also sink a 5 shank v-ripper with ease.

 

[tw30]

You mean like a john deere 915 or a older international vripper. I see alot of repainted international vripper on tractorhouse priced pretty good. Ill look into those more.

 

[pjbci]

Yes. Some of those international rippers had shorter shanks on them. You could probaly pull a 7 shank depending on your soil type. Heavy clay content is like concrete down here in the fall so we always stuck with a 5shank for our 145 hp tractor. But during the spring when ground was softer it would drag the frame of our long shank ripper.

 

[art]

HEavy disc's with larger blades will have larger spacing and used as primary tillage. Lighter disc's will have smaller diamter blades and be closer together for finish tillage.

 

[AGGIE00]

If I remember right, you need around 150# per disk and 22" disks for an intermediate plow. I personally would stick with those numbers and size the number of disks to your horsepower. I have a lightweight krause with 18" disks that weighs right at 100lbs per disk and it is basically a garden plow and only good for sand, but even then not so much if it has grass.

 

[tw30]

If I get a ripper it will probably be a Rome mfg. Their located about 3hrs north of me .
Down here in southern Ga/north Florida you either have really sandy soft soil or hard clay. Each feild can be different between those 2. I would say the clay soil around here is encountered when you start farming close to rivers. But most people don't farm waterfront property either lol. Trying to decide what to grow to. I have a uncle who has been farming for awhile. He says grow peanuts or corn because its easy to sell and the market is already there you wouldn't have to find customers like if I grew blueberries or other produce etc

 

[Grateful11]

pjbci is right you can't really compare the two. The operation here has an 10'6" Amco F-17 Disc Harrow for heavy ground breaking and a 14' CaseIH 475 Finish Disc Harrow. The Amco has about 300 lbs. per cutting foot, the Amco works really well in the red clay here in NC. The Rome company you speak of has some nice looking equipment.

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