Ditching job

[Hay Dude]

Simpler to just walk away, as once the DEC or DEP get wind of a job
like this they will stop it because it flows into river.

The ditches always have flowed into the river.
You think just cleaning/maintaining existing ditches will bring DEP in?
I have language in the contract if any gov or inspections are necessary they pay for expenses/delays.

 

[ovrszd]

The ditches always have flowed into the river.
You think just cleaning/maintaining existing ditches will bring DEP in?
I have language in the contract if any gov or inspections are necessary they pay for expenses/delays.

Maybe post the contract and readers can better understand what's involved?

 

[dodge man]

I’d start with a Cat D9 dozer, then concrete line the ditch or just build a box culvert the entire length. Make sure your team of lawyers reads the small print too.

Haydude by now has figured this thread is long enough that people don’t read all the pages of it and just jump to the end to make a comment. Maybe in the 16 pages there is a little nugget that will actually help.

 

[leonz]

The ditches always have flowed into the river.
You think just cleaning/maintaining existing ditches will bring DEP in?
I have language in the contract if any gov or inspections are necessary they pay for expenses/delays.

I am sure they will get involved because if silt flows into a navigable watercourse
that would be regulated by the DEP/DEC and United States Coast Guard.

 

[Hay Dude]

Ok so now you think the coast guard is going to get involved in a ditch cleaning job?

 

[Fixastuff]

@Hay Dude What is your bucket capacity and cycle time??

 

[Hay Dude]

1.5- 2 yards.
No idea on cycle time statistics.
Lot more concerned about driving distance to berm and ruts to it and back.

And now the Coast Guard lol

 

[jjeff]

Lol interesting replies I'm going to be a Smart-A## and "recommend" using a walking or tracked , dragline for excavation of your ditch project. so bid accordingly. Seriously though I'm following this and am more interested on how this turns out using smaller equipment with minimal collateral damage to the surrounding ground which I believe is what the owner and bidder wants. I ditched the low side of camp-road using a ss with a stump bucket 4 yrs later it still works great like I planned. Using smaller equipment is what I have and is my self proclaimed amateur specialty.

 

[3 Horse Ranch]

Lol interesting replies I'm going to be a Smart-A## and "recommend" using a walking or tracked , dragline for excavation of your ditch project. so bid accordingly. Seriously though I'm following this and am more interested on how this turns out using smaller equipment with minimal collateral damage to the surrounding ground which I believe is what the owner and bidder wants. I ditched the low side of camp-road using a ss with a stump bucket 4 yrs later it still works great like I planned. Using smaller equipment is what I have and is my self proclaimed amateur specialty.

Get serious, a bucket wheel excavator would be the perfect tool for the job.

 

[jigs_n_fixtures]

I am sure they will get involved because if silt flows into a navigable watercourse
that would be regulated by the DEP/DEC and United States Coast Guard.IiI

I think it isn’t the Coast Guard, but the Army Corps of Engineers, and whatever agency the state may, or may not have. And, it is a storm water permit, the threshold is how many acres of disturbance you will have. Required mitigation can be pretty simple to a nightmare.

Typically the contractor has to attend a class, to get certified. And there are exclusions in the law for irrigation and a few other things.

Quickest way to find out what you need to do locally to to find the correct Corps office and give them a call. There should be a web page, you get the contact information from.

I dealt with the permitting quite a bit on a past job, but haven’t done anything with it in the last ten years.