Diverter - Mounting

[bindian]

Thanks for the info Brian. Do you sell fittings too (I'm sure you do)? Maybe I'll take a stab at what I'll need and get it all at once. I'm assuming you'll be cheaper than my nearby parker store. I think an ORB is what I would call an "SAE" Straight thread, with oring. Does that sound right?

Does anyone know what fittings/hoses my loader has? I'm assuming they're about 1/2" JIC, but I don't even know.

Maybe I'll take the rest offline with Brian. I'll get a diagram of some sort put together to show what I'm thinking.

Check out Surplus Center and Discount Hydraulics for fittings and lines.
hugs, Brandi

 

[BukitCase]

If you need hoses to run parallel side by side, only way I know to do that (on the valves I've played with) is (as suggested) use these

6400-08-08 | 1/2" JIC Male x #8 SAE/ORB Male

Followed by these
6500-08-08 | 1/2" JIC Male x 1/2" JIC Female Swivel 90°

Or the 45 degree version if that works better for you -

If you need to run hoses OTHER than that (like inline with a pair of ports), they will probably need to be "over/under" - if so, do NOT bother with the "long" version of ORB/JIC 90's - they won't clear each other. instead, you'd need one of each of these per pair of ports - #6801 and #6801LL

6801-08-08 | 1/2" JIC Male x #8 SAE/ORB Male 90°

SAE 37° Flare (JIC) x O-Ring Boss (ORB) 90° Extra Long Elbow

A lot of the time it's simpler to just use the straight ORB/JIC adapters and whatever JIC hardware gets you aimed the way you need - plus, with swivel fittings it's easier to plumb at ODD angles.

HTH... Steve

BTW, some of those links are specific to #8 fittings, DHH has changed parts of their site. Be sure what sizes YOU need before you order.

 

[aeblank]

Yeah. Then add in sweep 90 fittings and extended sweep 90 fittings.
I recall going though books of fittings (faster than the internet) from Parker, weatherhead, brennan, etc. trying to get from A to B "elegantly". Not everyone makes every fitting. Then when you're changing sizes that adds another level of complexity. Custom coolers, custom reservoirs and on and on.

Thanks for the links. Good stuff.

 

[MtnViewRanch]

Uhh.......I thought he mentioned a valve with fittings on all 3 sides similiar to mine? Anyway, the link I showed in my thread for my valve says it's not found. I can't believe my valve is $80 more now.
hugs, Brandi

It is, sort of like the same thing, but only different. Different manufacturer and the ports are 1/8" closer together. Makes things much more difficult to work with.

 

[aeblank]

Can anyone tell me (on my LA724 loader) what fitting this is?
I *assume* it's a 3/8" JIC (the wrench size lines up).



Also planning on 1/4" hose for my diverter, which will be running a grapple.
Is that good, or should I do 3/8" for some reason? I only expect to run the grapple.

 

[BukitCase]

Looks like a swept 90* JIC to me, but with the wrench in the way I can't see the threads -

1/4 vs.3/8 - things will move nearly twice as fast, but with a grapple that's not usually a GOOD thing -

Other side of that coin - I was planning on 1/4" hoses for my double selector (grapple and a few other things, all of which are better off slow) - but I make up my own hoses to get exact lengths I need (and to minimize trips to town) - The intention was to use 1/4 hose with 3/8 JIC's so the anchor points would be stronger, but when I priced the difference between 1/4-1/4 and 1/4-3/8 in the re-usable fittings I use, the 1/4-3/8 fittings were about $10 more EACH.

That added up to $80 extra (4 hoses, both ends) so I will most likely just use all 3/8.

That difference may NOT be the case with store-bought crimped hoses, but you might wanna ASK first just to avoid surprises... Steve

 

[aeblank]

The fitting behind it is identical. I just wasn't sure if it was 37 degree JIC or if there was some other type that it would be.

I, too, am going 3/8" everything. Though it depends on what the grapple ends up being. If it's 1/4", then that hose end/bulkhead combo will also be 1/4" as will the QDs.

I was going to price the same hose in a 3/8" as well, just cause. Since its a diverter, too much speed shouldn't be too bad, though I want it "proportional" to the loader. Also, often times one can tap out the one end of a 90 degree fitting and thread in a plug with a hole drilled in it. Little more crude than an adjustable flow control, but it works.

 

[BukitCase]

If you use 1/4" QD's I doubt you'll want to slow it down much more - check out the right column of this chart (near the bottom of the page)

ISO 5675 Agricultural Hydraulic Quick Couplers

3.2 GPM might still be a bit fast for some things, but probably not much... Steve

 

[aeblank]

Arg. The grapple has 1/4" hoses, and seems to have 1/2" NPT fittings at the ends. So without a funky mess of reducers, that pushes me into 1/2" couplers. I wanted to stay with 3/8" couplers, cause that's what all the other QDs on my tractor are (that I already have a spare set for).

I had hoped I could get 3/8" couplers with 1/2" NPT, but I'm not seeing that.

We'll see, I guess.

 

[aeblank]

Eh, not that it matters, it seems.
My existing QDs are (i'm pretty sure anyway) ISO 7241 type B.
The "AG" fittings on DHH are ISO 5675.

Likely just get the 1/2" thread and then get a 1/2" to 3/8" bushing. Seems the most elegant solution. Cheap adaptation, too.