diverter valve question -

[purpony]

Looking to put a meyers plow on my 2320 JD bucket arms. I want to keep the up and down, and curl function and add a side to side tilt. I would like to run this all on my factory bucket control stick so im looking to put a converter valve in.

I was looking at this unit -

Prince Double Selector Valve - Hydraulics, Pneumatics and Power Transmission at Beiler Hydraulics

From reading the description, this sounds like what i need? With the knob in I can control factory functions of the bucket, and with the knob out I can replace the curl function with side to side tilt, correct?

 

[JD5210]

Cannot answer your question, but before you spend your money, answer me this question. What type of cylinder(s) will you be using to make it go side to side and will it be on the curl function? If it is going to be with single action cylinders, then I suggest you do a search on TBN on regen and insure it will not cause you a problem.

 

[Todd NE WY]

At first glance that appears that it will work, Kenny D and JJ will probably answer and they are more knowlegeble. Depending on what you are looking at for convenience you might be better served with an electric over hydraulic diverter. The one you link to has to have all 6 hoses run to it and be in a place that is reasonably accessable to pull or push the control. When running a plow the ablity to change between plow angle and curl(bite of the plow blade) without moving your hand from the joystick or looking down to find a lever is very valuable, I have a JD plow mounted on the font of the loader for snow. With the electric units you have a switch usually on the joystick and you simply push the button to switch between funcitons. I personally have a Fasse valve installed by the dealer but after reading the instructions I don't really think it would be any big deal to install one.

Todd

 

[North Country]

Hmmm...that would be something I could use to control 3pt top & tilt with my loader joystick, right?

 

[Mechanos]

Hmmm...that would be something I could use to control 3pt top & tilt with my loader joystick, right?

You'd need to have two of them to control both top AND tilt with the loader valve.

 

[North Country]

Take a closer look - this is a single knob that controls two circuits, right? From the product description: "For example two double acting cylinders or two reversible hydraulic motors can be operated by one four-way valve"

I think it's just the ticket - buy a $76 diverter valve instead of a multi-hundred $ dual SCV...and no worries about where to stick the extra joystick on a cramped machine.

 

[kennyd]

I just answered your PM...

The diverter you linked will work-but being manual it will be a PITA to use and locate where you can reach it.

You can lock the regen out, so no worries using two SA cylinders to operate the plow.

Now I will caution you about these plows on small machines-I built one years ago and HATED it. It sticks out to far in front and you are always loosing steering control. They seems to work OK on larger machines, but not the smaller ones. I now have a frame mounted plow and life is good.

 

[kennyd]

Take a closer look - this is a single knob that controls two circuits, right? From the product description: "For example two double acting cylinders or two reversible hydraulic motors can be operated by one four-way valve"
I think it's just the ticket - buy a $76 diverter valve instead of a multi-hundred $ dual SCV...and no worries about where to stick the extra joystick on a cramped machine.

No, it "splits" one circuit into two-but you can only use one at a time. There is essentially one input and two outputs.


You would still need two of them. One to divert the lift/lower circuit, and one to divert the dump/curl circuit.

 

[North Country]

Ah, yes. Of course.

Does the selector valve I'm dreaming of exist? Even if it's the same price as a dual SCV, I'd rather have a knob I can "hide" than another joystick that I'm going to catch something on every other time I turn around.

 

[kennyd]

Ah, yes. Of course.

Does the selector valve I'm dreaming of exist? Even if it's the same price as a dual SCV, I'd rather have a knob I can "hide" than another joystick that I'm going to catch something on every other time I turn around.

Yes and no...You can "stack" two of the electric diverter together...but: with the amount of hoses that would need to connect to these it would get unruly fast-and be ugly as sin to look at.

OTOH, adding a simple valve and plumbing it into the PB line is a much more elegant solution.

 

[purpony]

Thanks for the PM reply and info Kenny-

The plow im going to be using is a 80" wide Homesteader plow.

http://www.homesteaderplows.com/

Its a plastic blade and only weights 250lbs.

Right now I am using a 72" atv plow and works well so im hoping the 8" extra width shouldnt bother it to much. I was originally thinking of going with a frame mounted plow... but when i get stuck its nice to be able to use the bucket arms/plow.... to push myself free. I buried myself plenty of times over this past winter and was always able to get myself out!

 

[tymax]

Google W. R. long and look for info on their diverter kit. I ordered one of theirs through Iowa farm to install on a Deere 3720 cab to control a 4 in 1 bucket from the joystick. The valve is approx $600 and the brackets were about $100. Call W R Long and tell them your tractor and loader number....they are very helpful

 

[kennyd]

Thanks for the PM reply and info Kenny-

The plow im going to be using is a 80" wide Homesteader plow.

http://www.homesteaderplows.com/

Its a plastic blade and only weights 250lbs.

Right now I am using a 72" atv plow and works well so im hoping the 8" extra width shouldnt bother it to much. I was originally thinking of going with a frame mounted plow... but when i get stuck its nice to be able to use the bucket arms/plow.... to push myself free. I buried myself plenty of times over this past winter and was always able to get myself out!

Your using this 72" ATV plow on your tractor? I do think 80" is way to big regardless of the weight, that is a lot of stress on the loader. Does it have trip springs?

 

[purpony]

yes, been using a 72" cycle country plow for the last 4 years. Worked great this past winter with 3' of snow! The plow on the explorer is what i was looking to put on the tractor. Either way... if i keep the ATV plow, i want to put side to side tilt.

I looked at the W R Long a couple years back, just dont feel like dropping $700 on it... would rather put that towards a snow blower for the front end

 

[Mechanos]

yes, been using a 72" cycle country plow for the last 4 years. Worked great this past winter with 3' of snow! The plow on the explorer is what i was looking to put on the tractor. Either way... if i keep the ATV plow, i want to put side to side tilt.

I looked at the W R Long a couple years back, just dont feel like dropping $700 on it... would rather put that towards a snow blower for the front end

Have you priced out the total cost for one of these mechanical diverter valves, hoses, hydraulic adpater fittings, etc.? I'm sure it's less than $700, but just curious what you think you'd have in it.