Do any 3 pt hitches provide downforce?

   / Do any 3 pt hitches provide downforce? #11  
I was thinking of just getting a hydraulic auger to put on my loader then it would be easier to keep it plumb and apply down pressure.
 
   / Do any 3 pt hitches provide downforce? #12  
When you use your auger, if you have a friend with a FEL, have him put MINOR down pressure with his bucket on the top of your auger. Not too much, cause you'll break a sheer pin by forcing the auger to do more than it's capable.

I do this. I have a 10" auger that goes 4' down, I can get 4' using the loader method SLOWLY.....
 
   / Do any 3 pt hitches provide downforce? #13  
The thing not mentioned, or I missed it is that you weight your tractor for traction. Down force modifies/negates....would modify/negate some of that and it could be a problem.

However, the top link (3rd member) is readily used to cause implements like 3 pt disc harrows to level out on the field so that both sets of blades cut the soil as are required by the conditions.....that's down force.
 
   / Do any 3 pt hitches provide downforce? #14  
If you offset either the digger or the drawbar, you might be able to use a small 1 way cylinder with a chain to pull the auger down. I've used a cable on my bucket with a snatch block on the drawbar to 'encourage' the auger to go south. I leave the bucket on the ground and curl the bucket up to apply the cable force like a winch would.

After all is said and done though, a bucket of water, a sharp auger point and long, sharp auger teeth make enough difference to not need the extra downforce.
 
   / Do any 3 pt hitches provide downforce? #15  
Generally no. Some older Belarus tractors do.
All new MTZ/Belarus 900 series have down pressure from the factory, or as inexpensive option (about 300$).
Those are 84-105 hp models, available in USA/Canada.
What power tractor do you need for your application ?
 
   / Do any 3 pt hitches provide downforce? #17  
The newer JD 4000R series tractors have 3pt down pressure as an option. As far as your auger, just get a hydraulic down pressure kit for it and you should never want for down pressure again. ;)

That is a pretty cool post hole digger option!

Thanks for posting that picture!
 
   / Do any 3 pt hitches provide downforce? #18  
The newer JD 4000R series tractors have 3pt down pressure as an option. As far as your auger, just get a hydraulic down pressure kit for it and you should never want for down pressure again. ;)

How effective is that?
My Danuser PHD has that kit, but I’ve never used it, or needed to. Biggest problem here are the bowling ball size rocks you may find. Hit or miss.
I hooked up the hoses once and things made funny noises, later discovered (I think) that only one hose is suppose to connect to SCV, and other hose is suppose to directly drain back into hydraulic fill port (and not have a connector on it).
Now I can’t remember or figure out why 2nd hose had to go to fill port and not other SCV port? I understand 2nd hose is the return line from a relief valve on kit (i.e. cylinder is single action), but why couldn’t 2nd hose still be connected to SCV?
Is this how yours is?
 
   / Do any 3 pt hitches provide downforce? #19  
I bet you would see a sharp increase in rollovers if tractors suddenly started having that feature.
 
   / Do any 3 pt hitches provide downforce? #20  
How effective is that?
My Danuser PHD has that kit, but I致e never used it, or needed to. Biggest problem here are the bowling ball size rocks you may find. Hit or miss.
I hooked up the hoses once and things made funny noises, later discovered (I think) that only one hose is suppose to connect to SCV, and other hose is suppose to directly drain back into hydraulic fill port (and not have a connector on it).
Now I can稚 remember or figure out why 2nd hose had to go to fill port and not other SCV port? I understand 2nd hose is the return line from a relief valve on kit (i.e. cylinder is single action), but why couldn稚 2nd hose still be connected to SCV?
Is this how yours is?

The return needs to go to a direct return to tank port. Yes it can have a coupler on it, but it needs to return with no real restriction.

The rod needs to retract as the 3pt hitch is raised. How would this even be possible if you were simply using the SCV? You need the fluid to flow in one direction to extend the rod and add down pressure. Then the fluid needs to flow in the opposite direction to allow the fluid to leave the cylinder which allows the 3pt to be raised. The fluid needs to be flowing out of the cylinder at the same exact time that the 3pt hitch is being raised. The 3pt hitch and a rear remote will not operate at the same time. So basically impossible to raise the 3pt and open an SCV to allow for the fluid to escape the cylinder.

All I can say about the down pressure option is that it took me from literally taking days to dig a hole (needing to allow water to soak in the hole at times well over a weekend) to being able to drill any hole (6"-24"dia, 4' deep) any accessible place at anytime on our 120 acres in less than 3 minutes at an idle.

All of my PHD items are the best PTO driven parts that Land Pride has. So no low buck excuses. When you have ground (decomposed granite) so hard that you can get a digging bar to spark,:shocked: you have some hard ground. :eek:
 
 
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