Dodge ram

[charlton289]

I agree with you every manufacturer has its own way of doing things and I don't care if a tractor or heavy equipment even tractor trailers All have problems you just have to choose which one meets your needs and go for it.

 

[aczlan]

OK, so the fully loaded, weight-wise (Laramie, 4x4, Rambox) 2014 model has a capacity that low. But that's a far cry from "most trims of RAM can only do 900 lbs total payload". Looking through your chart and the rest of the variations at the source web page for that chart (http://www.rambodybuilder.com/2014/docs/ram/rammlup1500.pdf) shows that most are 1200# or more. For instance, a Sport model similar to my 2010 (Sport, 4x4, 5'7" plain box, Hemi) has a capacity of 1420#. Not sure what else they dump into a Laramie Limited since my Sport was pretty much fully loaded except for rear seat DVD and a rear seat heater so I'm going to say the sub-1000# capacity is a fringe case. Just call it out as such, is all I ask for the original poster that complained about it. Misguiding blanket statements are how we get bad info on the web that someone else will find in a Google search someday and take as fact.

They have bumped it up for 2017, here is the comparable chart (no similar one available for 2018 yet): http://www.rambodybuilder.com/2017/docs/ram/rammlup1500.pdf
The lowest number on there is for a crew cab with the EcoDiesel and the 6'4" bed, that one is 1250#.
With that truck, putting 4 200# people in the truck and 10% tongue weight on a trailer, you can only put a 4000# trailer on the back and nothing in the bed.
Now, if read the fine print, when you get the Off Road Tire, All Terrain Tire or Steel Wheel options with a Quad or Crew Cab, you are limited to a 6800# GVWR vs a 6950# GVWR otherwise.
If you like big wheels, please note that it also says in the fine print that "All models with 22 inch Tires have 6200 lb GVWR" so if you have 22" wheels, a standard cab, 4x4, a 8' box and the EcoDiesel you will have a whole 888# of payload.
If you have 22" wheels, a Crew Cab, a 6'4" Box and 4x4 you will have a payload of 504.99#.

Aaron Z

 

[deezler]

Ok, thats why I put on my flame suit, knew some folks would get touchy over the payload debate. I'm not trying to hate on anything; like I said, I was initially quite excited for the ram ecodiesel. but I wanted a quad cab, a nice trim package, 4wd and to still be able to haul stuff around. Many of the trim spec payloads were under 1000 lbs. Even if 1200 lbs, thats kinda pathetic, no? You can get an aluminum F150 with 3k lbs payload capability. The main problem was RAM limiting total GWVR to 6900 lbs when the vehicle can easily weigh over 5500 lbs itself.

In the end I gave up my ecodiesel MPG dreams and settled for a used Sierra 2500HD - with 3800 lbs payload. I like being able to put a full pallet of brick/block/pavers in the bed even if I don't do it too often.

 

[deezler]

so if you have 22" wheels, a standard cab, 4x4, a 8' box and the EcoDiesel you will have a whole 888# of payload.
If you have 22" wheels, a Crew Cab, a 6'4" Box and 4x4 you will have a payload of 504.99#.

Aaron Z

That's insane! Why would they even sell the truck like that ?!?! FCA engineering is pretty pathetic sometimes.

 

[dodge man]

On paper they may make a F150 with 3k of payload but have you ever seen one. The truck I just bought has the 7040lb payload package and its rated at 1940 lbs. Of course this isn't including the driver or passengers. I've seen loaded F150''s that are rated at less than 1500lbs of payload. The F150's are better than the Rams for payload but not that much better.

 

[BigBlue1]

Ok, thats why I put on my flame suit, knew some folks would get touchy over the payload debate. I'm not trying to hate on anything; like I said, I was initially quite excited for the ram ecodiesel. but I wanted a quad cab, a nice trim package, 4wd and to still be able to haul stuff around. Many of the trim spec payloads were under 1000 lbs. Even if 1200 lbs, thats kinda pathetic, no? You can get an aluminum F150 with 3k lbs payload capability. The main problem was RAM limiting total GWVR to 6900 lbs when the vehicle can easily weigh over 5500 lbs itself.

In the end I gave up my ecodiesel MPG dreams and settled for a used Sierra 2500HD - with 3800 lbs payload. I like being able to put a full pallet of brick/block/pavers in the bed even if I don't do it too often.

Nobody is touchy and it isn't a debate and I'm certainly not flaming you, just calling you on a broad claim saying that "most trims of RAM can only do 900 lbs total payload" when it is just purely not true. The previously provided 2014 link to towing/payload info has 9 pages of vehicle configurations with literally dozens and dozens of trim configs per page. Totaling hundreds of permutations. And there are only single-digit numbers of trim configs (9?) that have a payload under 1000#. So it isn't 'many' and it isn't 'most'. Just be intellectually honest and say what you mean, which is that the vehicle trim combo you wanted had a poor payload limit. Totally valid assessment. But 95% of the rest of the configs have significantly higher payload. Also, where do you find info about a Ford F150 having 3000# payload? Because that's not what I'm seeing: https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/14FLRV&TT_F150_Sep11.pdf

I get it, you researched Ram and found you didn't like what they had to offer. I don't like Ford or Chevy either. But if I were to post something critical I'd only post facts or my feelings about what I like/dislike, not misleading info.

Rob

 

[greif]

The big Horn I just got states 1590 lbs and for me that is fine.

 

[dodge man]

Greif, how about a pic and some details on your purchase. Glad you found what you wanted.

 

[BigBlue1]

The big Horn I just got states 1590 lbs and for me that is fine.

Congrats! Post pics!

Rob

 

[RandyT]

The thing is there are a lot of half ton pickups on the road that never tow a trailer, or even haul more than a bag of groceries in the bed, so payload doesn't mean anything if they don't use it for a truck.

 

[Ford850]

Keep in mind those payload numbers from the manufacturers are "maximum available payload" for that model/package. Start checking door stickers if you want the truth on the one you have, or the one you are looking at. It's surprising how fast those numbers come down with a few accessories, or maybe a spare tire. :laughing:
I looked at a lot of door stickers when I was shopping, and some trucks have lower payload ratings than many cars and SUV's. My truck has the 8200 gvwr package, so the payload is well over a ton. Do you homework, no matter which brand you're looking at.

 

[greif]

here you go

 

[dodge man]

Very nice. I like the two tone paint white and red

 

[tjkubota93]

It's a half ton truck because you can haul a half ton of stuff right?

 

[greif]

We were supposed to get 7" but o ly got 3" which is fine by me, every year I dislike winter more and more

 

[wmonroe]

Nice looking truck!

 

[deezler]

Nobody is touchy and it isn't a debate and I'm certainly not flaming you, just calling you on a broad claim saying that "most trims of RAM can only do 900 lbs total payload" when it is just purely not true.

I get it, you researched Ram and found you didn't like what they had to offer. I don't like Ford or Chevy either. But if I were to post something critical I'd only post facts or my feelings about what I like/dislike, not misleading info.

Rob

Hey Rob, solid points. I should have worded things more carefully. When I was looking at 2014 or 2015 rams with ecodiesel, 4wd, quad cab: most trims had pretty low payload, many under 1k lbs (I swear). I certainly didn't mean all rams. And I was going off memory a few years later, so, oh well. Not sure that random pdf should be treated as gospel, either.

It's weird that I even wrote that first post though, I'm really not an internet troll, I promise, lol. There is a lot to like about ram trucks - styling, nice ride, Uconnect, etc. Don't mean to be a hater and it looks like I was mostly wrong; sorry dudes

 

[BigBlue1]

Hey Rob, solid points. I should have worded things more carefully. When I was looking at 2014 or 2015 rams with ecodiesel, 4wd, quad cab: most trims had pretty low payload, many under 1k lbs (I swear). I certainly didn't mean all rams. And I was going off memory a few years later, so, oh well. Not sure that random pdf should be treated as gospel, either.

It's weird that I even wrote that first post though, I'm really not an internet troll, I promise, lol. There is a lot to like about ram trucks - styling, nice ride, Uconnect, etc. Don't mean to be a hater and it looks like I was mostly wrong; sorry dudes

Point taken. Everyone has had the experience of writing a quick comment in a post and then realizing later that it was not 100% accurate or overly broad or something like that. I was just trying to point out the flip side. Sorry to come off harshly.

That PDF, however, is straight from Dodge/Ram's web site, so I think it is solid info.

Rob

 

[RyeThomas]

I have always found it odd how low the payload is on some of the trucks, problem is (I’ve been a Ram HD guy for years) you go over to the Ram forums and you have guys with 3500’s complaining about the ride. I think the low ratings on the 1500 is to get the best ride as possible, nice and soft like a caddy.
People want their cake and to eat it too but the expectation has become insane. I want 1000ftlbs of torque , 25 MPG, tow 30k, ride like a caddy. It’s silly.

Nice truck by the way, I hope it gives you many trouble free miles.

 

[WilliamBos]

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Gorgeous 'snowtone' paint. The Rams have caught my attention too. The last time I looked at one it was a Dodge Ram W250... should of bought it.