Does This Tractor Exist?

LSmith · Sep 19, 2005

Hi All, I'm still banging around tractor ideas and need help.
I want around a 25-30hp tractor with a FEL, MMM, & a BH. I would like to stick with New Holland or Kubota since they both have good dealers near me and decent finance deals. This new tractor needs to be my swiss army knife. I need it for mowing and for material handling. It needs to be HST or equivalent so the wife can handle it. I would also eventually like to add a 3pt log splitter and a chipper. Am I asking for a 10 pound deal in a five pound box or is this possible?

Thanks

Lane Smith

rdbrumfield · Sep 19, 2005

No problem. The mid mount mower might be the hangup on the size of tractor. I know Kubota has a rig that can handle all of that. I would start by just going around to different dealers and picking there brains. I have talked to a lot of them that shouldn't be selling tractors. Good Luck.

wushaw · Sep 20, 2005

The MMM and BH won't go together in on Kubota due to the subframe.

Soundguy · Sep 20, 2005

I know you can/could get something like a tc29d that had hst, and could AFAIK take a MMM.. However.. I'm not sure it can be mounted in tandem with the backhoe frame... Not saying it can't.. just not sure.

How much backhoe work you doing? While they are not super popular.. you might find a smallish 3pt backhoe.. and use it... Something that does not need a frame.. but is not as strong as a rigidly mounted one. Check your warranty.. some dealers may not honor "tractor broke in half" issues with 3pt hoe's

Soundguy

MessickFarmEqu · Sep 20, 2005

( The MMM and BH won't go together in on Kubota due to the subframe. )

this is not always correct. The new BH75 is compatibile with a mid mower as are all the new 4pt mounts from Woods.

ronjhall · Sep 20, 2005

To fit you list of task and options. Look at the B26-3030 or B7800. My choice would be the B2630 with 72" MMM and BH75 BH.

gmsssi · Sep 20, 2005

In MS you have 2 Kioti dealers inside 50 mile, another 75 miles away. In TN you have 2 dealers inside 77 miles. The CK30 would be hard for me to ignore for what you want to do.

MossRoad · Sep 20, 2005

I understand the attachments you want.

However, why would you want a backhoe on at the same time you have a MMM on it. I wouldn't want the weight while mowing. So, can you easily remove the backhoe, and, if so, do you have to remove the BH's frame to put the MMM mower on? Would a RFM work on the 3pt after the backhoe was removed with the frame left on? If so, might be a good compromise.

MossRoad · Sep 20, 2005

Looks like there are three different models of BH that will fit the TC29D. The literature says the 3pt arms stay on the tractor when the BH frame is mounted. Couldn't find anything relating to a MMM with the BH frame, though.

Bob_Skurka · Sep 20, 2005

( ( The MMM and BH won't go together in on Kubota due to the subframe. )

this is not always correct. The new BH75 is compatibile with a mid mower as are all the new 4pt mounts from Woods. )

Neil, can the TC29 or 33 take a MMM while a BH is installed?

In my mind that would be an ideal tractor if I was looking for a Swiss-Army-Knife type of solution. The size is modest, making for easy turning while mowing and if the Super Steer option was purchased, it would make it the tightest turning machine of its size. HST transmission is available as the wife friendly option. The weight is modest, also good for mowing, but a Kubota would be lighter and better for that task. The 14LA loader is superior to the Kubota loader in design and visibility. For mowing you'd want the BH removed. But if using the BH on reasonably smooth land, the MMM could stay on for most BH duties.

My second choice would probably be the Kubota B3030, it weighs less making it a better mower but it suffers from a traditional dog arm loader.

rockyridgefarm · Sep 20, 2005

It is a sad fact that many backhoe subframe designs mean that a mmm cannot be used AT ALL. the subframe stays on the tractor interfering with the mid mower. That is great to hear that Kubota has a backhoe that will allow this, and I think the B2630 or B3030 would be a great match. ( I am by no means up to snuff on Kubota products, but I do really like those machines.)

Deere hoes DO allow the mmm to be installed, and even to be used with the hoe mountred (as anyone would want to do that!) But the poster didn't mention any Deere dealers making his short list. (IF you still have trouble finding wht you want, you might want to check out the dealer locator on Deere's site. I did just that, and managed to find some dealers who were anxious for my business and did a fine job...) But you are looking at fine machines at both Kubota and New Holland and if you have dealers that you like, keep after it!

ronjhall · Sep 20, 2005

With a BH installed on a B7800 or B3030 the MMM must be pinned in the up position. I'm not sure about the other manufactures. B7800 and BL4690 BH use 3PH lower links to mount BH. On B26-3030 the lower links must be removed to install the BH75.

wushaw · Sep 20, 2005

( ( The MMM and BH won't go together in on Kubota due to the subframe. )

this is not always correct. The new BH75 is compatibile with a mid mower as are all the new 4pt mounts from Woods. )

By golly your right /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif It good to know someone is up on the new setups /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

thcri · Sep 20, 2005

I have the New Holland TC29D with a 72" MMM, I mow close to 2 acres. I have the 7308 Loader and I do all kinds of stuff with the loader. I don't have the backhoe though but have found the 29 to be a good all around tractor.

murph

LSmith · Sep 20, 2005

Just an Update,
Talked to another sales guy at the Kubota place and he said that the B7800 would take a MMM and still be compatible with the Kubota BH & FEL. Then he made another proposal, Look at the L3400 with a Woods BH & Loader and work a Kubota lawn tractor into the deal instead of a MMM. This appeals to me. I needed the MMM to replace a old Murrary lawn tractor and since I don't have a lot of lawn type grass to mow this might be a solution. The wife would be more comfortable with a small lawn tractor & I could go up a little in size to accommodate my material handling needs. BTW I wouldn't keep the BH attached all the time but after reading in this forum about 3pt Backhoe issues I really don't want to risk a large investment like a new tractor on something like: "Look Honey I Broke the new tractor in half!" The original sales guy I talked to at the dealership was like pulling teeth to get any information. But I think I found the right guy at the dealership to make things happen. It's looking more like Kubota. To answer about Deere & Kioti, The Deere dealer has a bad case of "Big Farmitis" Any thing less than a 100hp isn't worth his time to talk about. Kioti is interesting but since the closest dealer is about an hour away & the Kubota dealer is 10min away I still am leaning toward Kubota. FYI this tractor will reside in TN.

Thanks for all the info, I'm still not through looking since this is a big investment and I want this to be right. The more information the better.

Soundguy · Sep 21, 2005

If you are looking at a seperate mower.. then why not go back with another inexpensive murray... should be way cheaper than a kubota lawn mower.. and tat puts you into a bigger tractor / saves you money.

Soundguy

rockyridgefarm · Sep 21, 2005

Soundguy is usually a very sane guy, but he missed the point this time. Your wife needs a nice Kubota LG, so she stays AWAY from yours!!! Just kdding! My wife and I really enjoy tractor projects together...

Sounds like you are getting settled in with a good dealer, That is the most important choice,. The rest should come together nicely!

Its OK for a dealer to recognize their niche sometimes. Trying to be Everything to Everybody can put them in the poorhouse. They end up being a Nobody to Everybody! Just as important for you to find the Somebody that you can be Somebody to, as well!

Soundguy · Sep 21, 2005

( Soundguy is usually a very sane guy, but he missed the point this time. Your wife needs a nice Kubota LG, so she stays AWAY from yours )

Funny enough.. i can't get my wife to look sideways at my tractors.. but now that I got her that yerf-dog CUV.. i think she drives it every day.... more often than i drive my tractor!

Soundguy