Dog and the Mail Lady

   / Dog and the Mail Lady #31  
You can forget about the postmaster siding with Grandma. Save your time and energy. Imagine the repercussions for him/her if they didn't take the carriers concern seriously and something happened. Could be the dog just being playful, but that carrier isn't going to think so.

Most dogs like me, and I like most dogs, but you often hear about the dog "that never bit anyone before".
So you consider a dog inside the house behind a closed security door a threat? The dog in question was not outside roaming, but within the house behind a closed door.
 
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#32  
So you consider a dog inside the house behind a closed security door a threat? The dog in question was not outside roaming, but within the house behind a closed door.
That’s what drew me in and I don’t have a dog in this fight.

Not sure of the breed but as a property manager dogs have caused issues for me.

Insurance has banned some breeds but against the no dog policy at a rental I manage tenant got a companion dog for their slight autistic son… it’s a pit-bull.

ADA and Dr. note had me between a rock and a hard place as manager.

The family moved a few months later without incident..

As too grandma, my fear is having the dog is making things stressful for her plus maybe increased chance of a fall as she is not all that steady walking with a cane..
 
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#33  
Another way to look at it is maybe grandma got the same as a free P.O. Box?

The post office now holds her mail and the grandson picks it up on his day off…
 
   / Dog and the Mail Lady #34  
That’s what drew me in and I don’t have a dog in this fight.

Not sure of the breed but as a property manager dogs have caused issues for me.

Insurance has banned some breeds but against the no dog policy at a rental I manage tenant got a companion dog for their slight autistic son… it’s a pit-bull.

ADA and Dr. note had me between a rock and a hard place as manager.

The family moved a few months later without incident..

As too grandma, my fear is having the dog is making things stressful for her plus maybe increased chance of a fall as she is not all that steady walking with a cane..
My question is would the carrier deliver in an area where someone walked their dog on a leash if it looked scary? Or be in a parking lot with an protective dog in a vehicle (contained).
I had a Great Pyr that would make you pray if you walked near the SUV.
 
   / Dog and the Mail Lady #35  
So you consider a dog inside the house behind a closed security door a threat? The dog in question was not outside roaming, but within the house behind a closed door.
No guarantee the dog will remain there.
A pit mix behind an invisible fence came through the barrier one day while I passed by the yard. I'm glad I never felt comfortable enough to lower my guard thinking that dog was behind security.
 
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Mom was attacked by a pit when a 12 year old came home from school and opened the front door and a dog charged out to the sidewalk.

Mom was just walking to mail a letter 2 blocks from home…

It was career ending after 50 years as RN

All it took was an instant… the dog family was renting and the property was in foreclosure… mom never saw a penny…

Maybe it would have been different if mom was a letter carrier delivering instead of carrying a letter to mail?
 
   / Dog and the Mail Lady #37  
My mom was attacked by a pit when a 12 year old came home from school and opened the front door and the dog charged out to the sidewalk.

Mom was just walking to mail a letter 2 blocks from home…

It was career ending after 50 years as RN

A it took was an instant… the family was renting and the property was in foreclosure… mom never saw a penny…

Maybe it would have been different if mom was a letter carrier delivering instead of carrying a letter to mail?
:(
 
   / Dog and the Mail Lady #38  
No guarantee the dog will remain there.
A pit mix behind an invisible fence came through the barrier one day while I passed by the yard. I'm glad I never felt comfortable enough to lower my guard thinking that dog was behind security.
Invisible fence is worthless to a motivated dog. What level of containment is sufficient to be allowed to have a dog? We had one here secured in a metal kennel shot by a scared officer. It was a 8 pound Chihuahua and never left the kennel, just scared the poor officer.
 
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Invisible fence is worthless to motivated dog. What level of containment is sufficient to be allowed to have a dog? We had one here secured in a metal kennel shot by a scared officer. It was a 8 pound Chihuahua and never left the kennel, just scared the poor officer.
That is very sad…

A few years ago in

In 2010, an Oakland police officer fatally shot a family's dog while responding to a call for assistance from an animal control officer and the dogs owner fatally shot the officer.

October 5, 2010, an Oakland police officer shot and killed a family's 11-year-old arthritic golden Labrador named Gloria in the backyard of her home. The shooting occurred while the officer was assisting an animal control officer at the residence. The incident caused outrage, and the officer claimed he felt threatened by the dog
 
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   / Dog and the Mail Lady #40  
Your first couple posts really paint the picture from the Post Office's viewpoint -- And you know the dog and the situation . . . Imagine how a stranger might describe the same event.

You said the dog sounded like it would tear you apart. I'm guessing that includes some lunging against the door too.

You said that no way would the dog let someone into the house.
In other words, it must be a VERY ferocious sounding dog. In fact, it sounds like it would actually bite if "it wouldn't let someone in the house."

If the dog is that scary, no one is going to walk up to the mailbox everyday terrified that the door isn't latched properly. (I don't think you've mentioned what breed it is, but if it's one of the recognized "vicious" "dangerous" breeds, that adds another layer of credibility to the postal carrier's fears.) It doesn't matter that it's behind a screen door or a mesh door. (I know of one instance where a mastiff came through a picture window. I don't think it was actually going to bite anyone, but it was just a loud wild dog and slammed up against the glass one too many times. Took a lot of stitches and made a lot of mess. Just "being inside" might not always be enough.)

(Side story -- Reminds me of a private zoo at a resort I stayed at. They had everything, but the tigers were right outside the townhouse I was staying in -- just across the sidewalk from where I parked my car. I was standing there watching this big male tiger pace back-and-forth, looking back at me, on the other side of some heavy chain-link fence. After a couple seconds I broke eye contact and backed away and got in my car! I remember thinking "this is nuts!")

With all the lawsuits and attorneys and risk-management people, and all the worker's comp injuries and PTSD claims, etc. etc. . . . virtually all companies now have policies that their workers are not allowed to place themselves in danger and have to report these things. Companies routinely prohibit employees from even entering a premise with a "loose" dog. If the employee violates these guidelines, and then gets hurt, they potentially face discipline and reduced compensation. The policies are well-intentioned but get amplified by extreme risk aversion.

I'm a dog guy. Have two now. Have had dogs my whole life except for a couple years when I lived in a dorm. And I've had some of the recognized "vicious" breeds too. But your initial post set the stage for this drama. Any dog that's "scary" can cause this kind of reaction. And anyone that has a dog that will bite people is sitting on a time-bomb and asking for trouble.
 

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