double dipper dilemma

Ginormous · Mar 31, 2012

So... on my YM1700 I have a dip stick for the engine oil and one for the hydraulic oil. They both say the same things, "oil" and a Japanese word, are the same color. They have the same thread so could be interchanged, which leads to my question. Which goes in which oil?

The only difference is that one has a longer metal post with a crosshatch pattern about 1 inch long, and the other has a shorter metal post with a crosshatch pattern about 2.5 inches long.

clemsonfor · Mar 31, 2012

Um i dont remember but i think they would be correct the way they are? Very few people drain both at the same time and lay the caps togeather and mix um up. My oil goes on the tire when i take it off and the hydro lays on the floor board.

I think the one for the engine oil is metal and the other plastic??

I would measure but im 160 miles from my tractor as i type.

kenmac · Mar 31, 2012

preformed maint on mine last week. changed oil , etc, The oil stick on mine is metal with metal hash marks. My hyd dip stick is plastic. My oil is larger & won't fit in the hyd oil hole

Ginormous · Mar 31, 2012

I should have started with this... here are a couple pictures of the 2 dipsticks. Between them is a US quarter for size reference. Both sticks are metal. The crosshatched pattern on the long stick is only about 5/8" long. The shorter stick was in the engine oil, and the longer one in the hydraulic fluid.

I'm sure I didn't switch them, but I'm wondering if the previous guy might have. (That's my story, and I'm sticking to it!!

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kenmac · Mar 31, 2012

My oil is the 1 with the many crosshatches. My entire oil cap/top & all is metal

..the top on both of yours plastic.. But, mine is a 3110... maybe something with the same tractor will chime in

California · Mar 31, 2012

Ginormous said:
The shorter stick was in the engine oil, and the longer one in the hydraulic fluid.

That looks correct but I'm going from memory, I'm not at the ranch right now. Hopefully someone else can verify this too.

I put a tiny punch mark halfway down that long crosshatch on the shorter stick, to indicate where four quarts of oil fills it to. This so I can verify that my YM240 doesn't use any oil, maybe 1/16" on the dipstick, between annual changes. You might pour in four quarts at an oil/filter change, and see if it reaches that midpoint.

kenmac said:
My oil is the 1 with the many crosshatches. My entire oil cap/top & all is metal

Mine too. With plastic used for the transmission cap.

winston1 · Mar 31, 2012

Very interesting. I know yours doesn't look like this but this is what Hoye is showing for the engine oil. Yanmar Tractor Parts: DIPSTICK LUB. --- EMAIL FOR AVAILABILITY --- My 2002 has one on the 4 wheel drive housing that looks similiar to the transmission.

kenmac · Mar 31, 2012

Only pic I could find

Mine looks like this . Cal's maybe the same

California · Mar 31, 2012

kenmac said:
Only pic I could find

Mine looks like this . Cal's maybe the same

I think it is the same. I posted this picture to show a temporary oil gauge I installed to verify that my sender needed replacement. But the picture also shows the all-metal threaded dipstick. (YM240/YM2000).

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pjbci · Mar 31, 2012

Logic tells me that the one with the shorter crosshatch is the engine oil. Long one is hyd.

California · Mar 31, 2012

Experience tells me that the hydraulic and front axle dipsticks have a shorter crosshatched area, compared to the crankcase dipstick.

careyo63 · Mar 31, 2012

I was just out back and mine look pretty much identical on my 2000. The shorter one Oil. The Long one Hyd. The length of the dip stick that is. The opposite for the Cross Marks. The Long Marks Oil. The Short Hyd.

clemsonfor · Apr 1, 2012

California said:
I think it is the same. I posted this picture to show a temporary oil gauge I installed to verify that my sender needed replacement. But the picture also shows the all-metal threaded dipstick. (YM240/YM2000).

My oil one is just like yours. Like i said the engine oil is all metal, i think i said this in a previous post. Like Ken my trans dipstick is plastic if i remember right.

careyo63 · Apr 1, 2012

Here another thing that puzzles me about the -A on my 2TR20A-A Eng. on a Red YM2000 after seeing the Oil on the cap of Cali. pic. which is the 2TR20A US. YM240. Why would they put both on my caps English and Japanese. Yotang224

:laughing:

clemsonfor · Apr 1, 2012

careyo63 said:
Here another thing that puzzles me about the -A on my 2TR20A-A Eng. on a Red YM2000 after seeing the Oil on the cap of Cali. pic. which is the 2TR20A US. YM240. Why would they put both on my caps English and Japanese. Yotang224 :laughing:

I got the Ym2000 and my cap looks exactly like California's. I bet he has Japanese on the far side of the cap, maybe not. BUT anyway my cap on both the Hydro and engine oil says oil in english and Japanese.

deepNdirt · Apr 1, 2012

Not sure if the ones from my 1700 are original, but are what came with it when I purchased the tractor, Seems to be slight different then the other ones shown, the 2 dipsticks are almost equal in length,
The hydraulic stick is plastic and measures from the O-ring to the tip 7 7/8
The Engine stick has a larger metal cap and measures from the O-ring to the tip 7 3/4
each have 710 as well as the Japanese writing ( OIL ) on them,

careyo63 · Apr 1, 2012

I forgot to mention that there is a noticable size difference in the caps. Same as yours DND. But didn't notice there was much of a difference in Ginormus pics. at the start of this thread. The Oil has been changed no doubt looking at the cap but is the same Length wise. And on the English that tells me they were planning on exporting alot of 1700/2000 models to the US. or No doubt English speaking countries. Still CRS. but I believe I know why they wasn't shipped to the US. LOL.

Ginormous · Apr 1, 2012

careyo63 said:
I forgot to mention that there is a noticable size difference in the caps. Same as yours DND. But didn't notice there was much of a difference in Ginormus pics. at the start of this thread. The Oil has been changed no doubt looking at the cap but is the same Length wise. And on the English that tells me they were planning on exporting alot of 1700/2000 models to the US. or No doubt English speaking countries. Still CRS. but I believe I know why they wasn't shipped to the US. LOL.

They produced lots of engines; some for Japan, some for the US. It was probably an economy of scale to produce a zillion "oil" caps/dipsticks that could be used in any of their engines, whether for the US or Japan. It's cheaper than producing a special cap for each engine and/or destination.

careyo63 · Apr 1, 2012

Ginormous said:
They produced lots of engines; some for Japan, some for the US. It was probably an economy of scale to produce a zillion "oil" caps/dipsticks that could be used in any of their engines, whether for the US or Japan.

And on the English that tells me they were planning on exporting alot of 1700/2000 models to the US. or No doubt English speaking countries. Still CRS. but I believe I know why they wasn't shipped to the US. LOL.

Weird but on your Oil Dip Sticks there's not a noticable difference in the size of the Caps ? My Hyd. will just about fall into the Oil hole and would be kind of hard not to tell which is which. Is that one of the Notorious Ohio VN Tractorsteins we have heard so much about ? If so that would explain it. Lived 10 yrs. in Hamilton County for me.

deepNdirt · Apr 1, 2012

I'm thinking if either of the 2 are the incorrect ones for the engine you may not been using the right amount of oil all this time,

especially if using the shorter of the 2, will have you over filling the crankcase, and could explain why or if you might been seeing oil blowing out the vent tube,